http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/3987861.html

U.S. Soldiers kidnapped and mutilated..... Those responsible are fucking pussies and obviously wouldn't stand a boogers chance in hell if they were forced to fight in a real combat engagement with those of the U.S. military.....But who cares right? lets fucking whine about all them innocent little future jihadists that would cut any of our throats given the chance.

And on the other side of the world in Iraq another reactionary fumes

Ibn-Hung To Bleedmillah: INNOCENT IRAQIS KIDNAPPED AND MUTILATED WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE US SOLDIERS WHO WOULD BLOW US ALL UP GIVEN THE CHANCE!!

In my pants.

BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:

I don't know what news you are reading (must be some from some Euro scum who is bitter about the ugly failed future of the E.U.) but there are no such occurences of U.S. soldiers kidnapping and mutilating innocent Iraqis...You just hate the military so much that you would LOVE to believe we act in the same barbaric manner.

Hey dickhead, none of you shmucks have ever been to Iraq. So how the fuck do you think you know whats going on. I'm a soldier and I must say Ive never heard any stories about US kidnapping Iraqis.... detaining the same scum that suicide bombs of children just to kill the one marine handing out candy to them yes, but even at that we don't get to give them the ass kicking they deserve. Because we have filthy Anti-American scum like you that would have us put in Jail by facists like the ACLU for war crimes. If your so concearned about the poor Iraqis why don't you join a human rights group, is it because you know members of those groups get shot, blown up and beheaded by the terrorists you all love so much. Go straight to hell you pro Hajji scum and quit trashing on men that are worth a hundred thousand of you low lives. -Kevin W Fletcher. U.S Army .... INFANTRY and GOD DAMN PROUD OF IT!

hung_to_bleed said:


FACT: Having a functioning pair of eyes constitutes liberal anti-american bias







And a word from the Euro Commie Media

Besides I think you missed the whole joke of my initial post. Assholes like you on both sides of the war have selective morality when it comes to the supposed sanctity of life. You're all "RAH RAH RAH KILL THOSE TOWELHEADS/INFIDELS" but as soon as one of the people on "your" side gets killed its suddenly "THOSE TOWELHEADS/INFIDELS DON'T RESPECT THE SACRIFICE OF OUR PEOPLE!"

War is fucking hell.

anonymous said:


As I started reading this I said Kev...and thus there it is your the man!

I am sure Hailtheleaf is happy about our soldiers being mutilated.

anonymous said:


Semper Fi, brother.

It was in response to our killing of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi...whatever, I usually have a liberal bias and yes I think there is a lot of bullshit on the US side that needs to be dealt with. But this does suck. The media is going to milk this and use these two lives to push and agenda and things like this are just going to keep happening. This war can't be ended easily...it's basically a trap. And no, just pulling out isn't going to do the trick either.

My sympathies to the families. And as Josh said "War is fucking hell."

Any American who is happy about our soldiers being mutilated is a sick fuck, and although our constitution allows scum like this to speak. I am all to happy to use the same right to tell that seditionist self loather that he's a disgrace to his own people, and any decent human being on the Earth. Go ahead and have a nice smile because I'm sure another soldier will die today. Those of us who may die can smile to, because at least we will live on forever... because the flag will live on forever. Scum like you will die after a long life, never been part of anything worthy, and forgotten just like you should be. So laugh it up you Anti-military defeatists, because we will win anyway. -Fletcher US Army

Scoracrasia said:

actually probably not you fucking loser

Oh and another thing, I'm sure none of you internal enemies know this. But when you swear into the US military you hold up your right hand (Like im sure you've done in court many times), and you swear to protect the Constitution against ALL enemies both foriegn and DOMESTIC. I hope some day once were done with Hajji, we can arrest all you enemies within, and put you on trial for sedition right along with the ACLU, CAIR, National Lawyers Guild and MoveOn.org and deport all your asses to the Middle East you all love. I hope to god all you miserable motherfuckers get what is coming to you for what your doing to my forefathers country.

BornSoVile said:

haha you believe in god, fag. take some more drugs why dontcha

Yo Joe!
He'll fight for freedom where ever there's trouble.
GI Joe is there.

It's GI Joe against Cobra the enemy
Fighting to save the day.
He never gives up.
He's always there,
Fighting for freedom over land and air

GI Joe- A real American hero
GI Joe is there

GI Joe is the codename for American's daring, highly trained
special mission force.
It's purpose, to defend human freedom against Cobra-
a ruthless, terrorist organization determined to rule the world.

He never gives up.
He'll stay til the fight's won.
GI Joe will dare.

GI Joe- A real American hero
GI Joe

anonymous said:

FUCK YEA!

anonymous said:


want a tissue? want some cheese with that whine??

Uh, The US Army just admitted that US soldiers executed 3 iraqis.
the soldiers are now up for court martial.

For someone who is "over there" you sure don't know shit.

(not that I care about ragheads but get your facts straight dumbass)

Army says 3 soldiers shot 3 Iraqis execution-style Witness allegedly was threatened

By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff | June 20, 2006

WASHINGTON -- The Army said yesterday it has charged three soldiers with premeditated murder and other criminal offenses for shooting to death three unarmed Iraqis last month and then later threatening to kill a fellow soldier if he revealed details to investigators.

The soldiers from the Third Brigade Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division allegedly shot the three Iraqis execution-style after detaining them during a raid on a suspected insurgent training camp May 9 near Thar Thar Canal , southwest of Tikrit, military officials said. The US military said at the time that more than 200 people were detained during the operation.

The three defendants -- Private Corey R. Clagett , Staff Sergeant Raymond L. Girouard , and Specialist William B. Hunsaker -- are accused of killing three males of \'\'apparent Middle Eastern descent" at the Muthana Chemical Complex north of Baghdad by shooting them at close range, according to the official Army charges made public yesterday.

The charges, which could bring the death penalty, are the latest in a string of investigations into whether US forces have been responsible for the wrongful deaths of Iraqis, either in custody or during combat operations.

The most serious among them is a criminal investigation into whether Marines shot to death 24 civilians in the town of Haditha in November after they came under attack from a roadside bomb. An investigation into how that case was handled by the chain of command has been completed and is being reviewed by the top ground commander in Iraq, while the criminal probe continues.

In another recent case, seven Marines and one Navy corpsman are being held at Camp Pendleton, Calif., on allegations that they kidnapped and killed an unarmed Iraqi man in the town of Hamdaniya, west of Baghdad, in April -- and then tried to make it look as if the man tried to attack them. No charges have been filed in the case, and lawyers representing the troops have contended that the media coverage has made a fair trial impossible.

The murder charges announced yesterday against the three soldiers from the 101st were brought after an investigation by the Army Criminal Investigation Command. The inquiry was launched immediately after the May 9 incident when the company commander on the scene, Captain Jason A. Sienko , questioned the circumstances surrounding the deaths, the Army statement said.

\'\'On the day the alleged murders occurred, the unit commander ordered an inquiry to determine the circumstances surrounding the deaths of the three detainees," the statement said yesterday.

The inquiry was first made public Friday in a brief statement that said Lieutenant General Peter W. Chiarelli , commander of the Multinational Corp-Iraq, \'\'requested that the Army's Criminal Investigation Command conduct an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of three males on Coalition Force custody in southern Salah ad Din Province on or about May 9, 2006.

The investigation apparently did not take long to complete, and the charges were brought against the three soldiers last Thursday, one day before Chiarelli's announcement, according to the Army documents.

All three soldiers, the documents charge, \'\'did, at or near the Muthana Chemical Complex, Iraq, on or about May 9, 2006, with premeditation, [each] murder a male detainee of apparent Middle-eastern descent whose name is unknown by means of shooting them with a firearm."

Each of the soldiers is also accused of trying to silence a witness in the case, Private Bradley L. Mason , by threatening him and trying to influence his testimony during the investigation.

Clagett is accused of telling Mason on or about May 29 that \'\'staff Sergeant Girouard will not have to kill you because I will kill you if you say anything," according to his charge sheet.

Girouard, who is charged with two counts of premeditated murder, is also accused of leveling multiple threats to try to cover up the May incident. For example, he is accused of telling Mason that \'\'I will kill you if you tell anyone," according to the official charges.

Hunsaker is also accused of trying to influence the testimony of Mason. On at least two occasions, immediately after the incident and then again last week, Hunsaker allegedly threatened Mason by telling him, \'\'Don't tell anyone because if I go to jail I will kill you," or words to that effect, according to his charge sheet.

To date, there have been about 600 investigations into incidents involving detainees in US military custody, including natural deaths and detainee assaults on other detainees, according to Army spokesman Paul Boyce. As a result, he said, 267 soldiers have received some punishment, including 85 courts martial and 95 non judicial actions.

In one on those cases, soldiers were charged in the suffocating death of a former Iraqi general in American custody. Two Pentagon reports, made public Friday, said murky procedures, lack of oversight, and inadequate resources have led to the mistreatment of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan.

anonymous said:

What a brilliant way to support the Constitution.
Have you ever actually read the Constitution?

I really really really hope most of our soldiers are not as stupid as you obviously are.

i think it's a riot that all these right wing blow hard tough guys are crying about a couple of dead soilders. toughen up, stop crying and get on with your life. if you don't like the reality of war then get out of the army and stay at home with the kids. you're making america look so weak.

He's got a good point, dickheads. Keep making fun of him. Tell him that he whines.....you assholes are the one's whining all the time. About your own country no less. You should be ashamed. At least this fucking guy, like me, pledged allegiance to something other than our own ego's and self interests. This country has breastfed you fucks your whole lives and you sit back and ask him if he want's a tissue? Cheese with his whine? That's just fucking stupid.

So sit and joke about the point that he's trying to make. We've afforded you that right. We buried our friends....have any of you? It's not a joke to us. Not one bit.

He believes in God? That's his belief.....he EARNED his right to have it. He wasn't just BORN into it like most of you. Let him have it without acting like a bunch of undisciplined idiot kids about it.

The Iraqis would butcher any of you just as fast as they would butcher an American soldier or Marine. Be glad that you're over here babbling on a forum about it and not there living it.

"And that's all I got to say about that."

BornSoVile said:


hahahaha

When there is no draft, only the bottom of the barrel joins the armed forces and you end up with genius' like Kev here representing America overseas.

Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't be fighting a war unless there is enough public support to justify a draft.

hoser said:

I would butcher anyone who attacked my country. You would too.
Why would you expect Iraqis to be any different?

You earn privileges, not rights. Rights are automatic. You should really learn the difference.

Again, no one is complaing about America. Just the assholes in charge of it.

Read the constitution after your buddy Kev is done with it. Maybe you'll learn something of what America is really all about.

BornSoVile said:

And I've lost about every ounce of respect that I've ever had for you, buddy. What have you done aside from put gel in your hair and take pictures of yourself to post here? Man, I'd love to bring you to one of my Marine Corps. reunions and watch you spout that bullshit. Aside from sounding like a complete moron, your guts would be spread all over the Eastern seaboard.

thanks for wiping your ass with the declaration of independence. the whole holier than thou because i'm a marine thing is getting old, just because i didn't want to live my life that way doesn't give you guys the right to become supreme. don't be pissed at us when you helped the country breast feed us, because that's all you crybabies do, complain about how we get breast fed, and now you're the heros for growing a tit? hypocrisy. dig another hole for yourself, that's what you're trained to do, deal with it.

hoser said:

I thought you swore to defend the Constitution to the death???

Do you even realize what you just said and how unconstitutional it is??

You get fucking stupider by the minute.

hoser said:

at least i could die a true patriot.

While Hoser was playing in the sand my fucking tax dollars were paying for his war toys. Where's my fucking thank you??

Josh....I challenge you to U.S. Constitution trivia anywhere, anytime.

I understand the difference between a right and a priveledge, dumbass. AND, why the fuck are you arguing with me again? I'm not having it, man. Arguing with you is a neverending mess of drama and horse shit. I agree to disagree......

BornSoVile said:

Marines, dumbass. I'm a Marine.

hoser said:

edited it out for yah, have you turned the sensitive switch on or something??

hahahaha this entire THREAD is

>>

i wish that was me and hoser but he lost all respect for me cause i'm not crying my eyes out about a couple of dead marines. i thought they were trained to deal with that shit, but apparently it throws a wrench in their gears, which makes me incredibly uneasy about my tax dollars going to support them.

well if they cant deal with it maybe were in trouble against iran, korea and china

holy fuck were screwed.

exactly, sooner or later, us pinko liberal message board warriors are gonna hafta bail them out. give it time, it's all in the cards.

hoser said:

Dude, one minute your bragging about how you defend the constitution, the next your threatening to kill someone for speaking his mind and you fail to see the hypocrisy in that.

So, sure I'll accept that challenge.

i just hope the other marines in the beloved corps arn't exactly as sensitive as hoser is. we're wicked fucked if everytime a marine is killed that they gotta sit around and cry about it. the army didn't pull that shit in ww2, i hope they learn a lesson from those heroes. hailed be the heroes.

Josh_Martin said:

I didn't threaten to kill anyone. You're twisting things again. I was implying that the "other" Marines in said room would probably gut him. I'm done with this, it's fucking ridiculous.

So you're saying that "other marines" shit all over the constitution??

But not you right?

Interesting.

but if the "other" Marines are there to uphold the same rights and priveledges as you, then why would they "gut" anyone for using their rights as an american.

you sir are missing the underlining point

It's spelled "Corps.", dipshit. And we fought on through it all, but we have feelings and memories too, bub. We're not fucking robots. So ya, we cry for our fallen comrades.......so did the men in WWII.

You're sounding more and more like a complete fucking idiot with each post. I'm sounding more like one responding to your uneducated, prettyboy blather. How in the Hell would you know what it felt like for them, or for us anyway?

damn you beat me to it ha

You got the last word, Josh. You win.

I am handing out the first "Hoser Award"
Our first winner is of course, Hoser.
Congrats dude.

hoser said:

BornSoVile said:

are you fucking kidding me?

hoser said:

Wow, I feel like I just beat up a child.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


I don't give a shit about the fucking point, retard. I get it already. Man, talking with you assholes is like teaching kindergartners to type code. "But Teacher, you just said that code is easy, I find it hard!" "But teacher, my point is, I don't get how dot matrix is like java in respect to the pythagorean theorem!!"

Holy fucking Mother of God!!

They would kick the shit out of him, bottom line!! Get it now fuckface?? Marines don't give a shit about Hypocracy or what you think is right and wrong....Holy fucking Christ, you are fucking numb.

Josh_Martin said:

No Josh, your bullshit exasperates me.

hoser said:


So Marines, who swear to to defend the constitution to the death, would violate it without thinking twice?
Interesting theory. If true, than yeah, I will applaud when they die.
I actually do defend the constitution. Its not just lip service or an excuse to "Kick ass dude!"

anonymous said:

no, some marines could learn a lesson from them. sure they cried, but there wasn't a swarm of crybabies that pissed and moaned about anyone who didn't cry or say a pray for a dead soilder. it's apart of the job. all i'm saying is deal with it. crying about 3 dead marines is exactly what the terrorist want you to do. we're letting the terrorists win. i'm an incredible asshole for thinking this way.

Josh_Martin said:

Then applaud when they die, Josh. Go ahead, that's your right. You're an asshole, which is also your right.

But, you really are an asshole.

I've been roasting in the sun at work today, so I havn't had a chance to read this in addition to the fact that all of this is almost too much to read in my current fatigued state. Not that I have to respond to any one particular comment because I'm pretty sure everyone here knows where I stand. All I have to say- like I've said 1,000's of times before, regarding the torture of others is that if you think what went down at gitmo and abu garib is torture then you are a fucking pussy. I think any asshole who gripes about the 5 star gitmo resort and then turns a blind eye towards soldiers who were not only executed but FUCKING MUTILATED is a douche bag and obviously has a such a deep hatred for the U.S. and the Military that it has officially corrupted their logic to such a degree that the damage is almost irreversible. JoshBSV hit the nail on the head - War is Hell! - that being said, why in fucks sake do good men who see this hell daily get put up on murder charges? If thats the case, why doesn't the Department of Defense review old WWII footage from Iwo Jima and arrest those soldiers who fucking torched the japs with a flame throwers as they hopelessly ran out of their caves?

whiskey_weed_and_women said:



You dumbass, no training in the world can block out human emotion. Yea when good men die, especially ones that you spend your entire day with every day for over a year. Yea its sad, its called having a heart you sack of shit. And no its guys that would rather cut their wrists all day and cry about how they cant get laid like most the fags on this page that were screwed.

But yes, thanks to limp wristed pacifism and self loathing suicide maniacs like you are the reason a major communist country would kick our ass. For the first time , I partly agree with one you scum. Oh and you think your a tough guy, and Hoser and I are pussies, Id like to see you walk up to any military member and say that. Your real tough on a chat forum.

Josh_Martin said:





Your a retard and know absolutley nothing about the armed forces dude. The military does defend the constitution, from protecting it from foriegn enemies. But the constitution and bill of rights does not apply to military personel. We do not have the right to free speech, we do not have the right to personal weapons in our barracks, we do not have the rights for shit. Were selfless servents, we give up all our rights to protect yours, just so you can applaud when we die. You think your such a defender of the constitution. I guarantee you havent done one thing in your entire life for this country or the constitution or bill of rights. You've done more to help Sharia law there buddy. All you have done is try to be witty on the god damn internet and impress bloggers. Congradulations retard, you have plenty of zeal when your safe in your home. I also guarantee you wouldn't have the balls to say any of this shit to Hoser or I if you ever met us in person. What you are my friend is a tourist, your trying to act so righteous here, but I bet you don't even picket with the other retards do you. So keep your big smug smile, the funny thing Ive noticed is that any words against you, have been very randomly thrown in there. Any decent American in this chatroom was out working all day, like my cousin HungtoBleed, but the retards like you seemed to have all the time in the world to argue online. While the rest of were on lunch break.


Oh and by the way, as I said. The constitution does not apply to servents of it like me. No where in my swearing in, did it say I will uphold the constitution to wage war.


Oh and by the way, we do not condone the killing of civilians. Hoser and I wouldn't go killing unarmed people execution style. What your too shortsighted to see is that these cases are the execption to the rule, not the rule itself. These fellas are fucking fucked up for doing that. But to be fair to them, they're the ones that see what the Iraqi's do to even themselves, you ever walked into a room and found Shiite beheaded by Sunnis... you try to defend their violence as something caused by us. You don't even realize that Arabs have been doing it to each other for thousands of years. These guys see the horrific violence these people are capable of, theyre probley on their third or fourth deployment now, and they snapped.

Heres the fine cut difference here between you and me Josh. I don't revel in the fact that we killed unarmed people. You however jump for joy that your own people were mutilated alive. And if I did have to spit on the constitution to get scum like you out of my country, then Id do so in a heartbeat. Like I said before, itd be the exception to the rule, not the rule itself. But putting that aside I dont see anywhere in the constitution where it provides rights of citizenship to enemies of the state. Theres a fine line between dissent and sedition my friend, and you dont know where to find it. Rot in hell and contract Herpes you sack of shit. _-Kevin

Wow......Amen.

yawn, politics are for 40 year olds.

hungtableed said:

And I'm sure on the other side of this planet there's another armchair soldier bitching about how what happened to those U.S. soldiers was nothing compared to the suffering inflicted on the Iraqi people by the war.

BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:


Why is it no matter what someone says, your only responce is I'm sure that Iraqis feel the same way. Why do you care about the feelings and emotions of Iraqis so much. Shouldn't you be more concearned about your own people? Jesus christ, sympthazing for the enemy is what brought me into this threat, not apathy for our soldiers. You don't care about our soldiers dying fine, but when you at the same time feel so sorry for the enemy, that pisses me off. I don't much care for Bornsovile especially since he wouldnt know a damn thing about it, but he said it best "war is hell".... Iraqis died, and so do we. Why feel bad for them and not your own countrymen. What a twisted generation we are

anonymous said:

Actually you're making an assumption there. You really don't know if I care that Iraqis and Americans are dying or I could not care about the deaths of either.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


1) fags don't believe in god

2) take more drugs? he's in the army and wouldn't get away with it even if he wanted to

Josh_Martin said:

you're my hero, Josh. When is the next AC show? You guys are so cool. You have so much to live for. Uh...where can I get some bomb heroin?? Just wondering, thought you might know...

haha I like your list of how everything that jackass said was assenine. But come on, this retard wouldn't know simple fact like that.

BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:

Well I am assuming, your right. But I'm assuming if you didn't care, you wouldnt be a part of this discussion trying to play devils advocate

ADOLF SATAN is a fist in the face of good taste and sobriety – a perfect soundtrack for every hangover, for every breakup, for every back alley abortion. This is antisocial music, played by scumbags, for scumbags. Fueled by substance abuse and a general disregard for any standards of “decency”, ADOLF SATAN is here for your liquor, your drugs and your children. The band consists of Larry Lifeless (vocals, ex-UPSIDEDOWN CROSS/KILSLUG), Josh Martin (guitar, ex-ANAL CUNT), Nate Linehan (drums, ex-ANAL CUNT) and Sean Linehan (bass) and deals out a dozen tracks of horrific Sludge/Doom metal on their debut full-length. Larry's perverse poetry and demented vocal stylings are backed by some of the heaviest riff-intensive Metal this side of VOLUME 4... ADOLF SATAN are Boston's new sleaze merchants and they have put together a platter of filth to dirty the ears of all who dare listen! (Liquor Not Included)



Wow, you sound like a helluva guy Josh. Oh and by the way your music just completely sucks, and its about as hardcore as a girls private school. Quit trying to be a musician and lie in the gutter with the other drugged out losers of Boston.

When there's no draft & we're at war, only the bravest join the armed forces I would say. Its those guys who have preserved your rights to speak freely even when what you have to say is obviously worthless. I would like to see the men come home as much as you would like to, and I bet the guys over there would love to be home also. You not supporting the war doesnt make you an authority on the subject nor does it justify you criticizing our soldiers.

I'm blaming all my problems on the christian conservative media for calling the whambulence everytime a soilder dies. Like I said before, our generation could learn a lesson from the heroes of WWII. Fucking deal with it. I'm thrilled that these anonymous heroes can hate me for thinking that way.

remnants said:

funny

most rationale people dont believe in god and geee so youre saying all my friends who are in the marines, army and navy who take drugs are you saying that theyre just not getting tested.

hmm you fucking queer fag bait woo woo mittens and shit

You moolie bitch.

BornSoVile said:


That's funny that you think the mass media is conservative. If anyone is calling the whambulence everytime a soldier dies it is the hard line leftist CNN, MSN, MSNBC alphabet stations that have done a minute to minute casualty update since the inception of the war for no other reason than to turn the public's opinion against the war effort. If you read mr 'anonymous hero's' first 1/2 dozen responces you will see that this 'anonymous hero' actually isn't all that anonymous at all for the fact that he posted his full name- middle initial included. And yeah, or generation could learn a lesson from those of WWII, that is stop bitching and moaning about collateral damage and support our guys before the enemy <(the original point of this thread)> No one gave a flying fuck how many japs died when we nuked hiroshima and nagasaki, let alone the 10's of thousands killed in the bombing raids in the days prior.

Not doing drugs is for faggots and commies.

hung_to_bleed said:

yeah fuck those people dood live in the now, you woo woo mittens wearing fagqueerbait

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

in all honesty, that is quite possibly the single most gayest thing I have ever seen anyone write here....ever, hands fucking down. The type of thing I would expect from someone who wears an inverted strap on dildo up their ass, all day.

hung_to_bleed said:

hey johnny 5hole put down the i'm on the internet to be serious, you fucking fag

What made you think what I said was any more serious than what you said? Unless of coarse that is what I said is true and it just struck the wrong chord....

Blah blah blah.

Hoser finally admits he hates the constitution because it protects people like me. Why he felt it necessary to brag about how he defends it I have no idea. More stupidity.

This Kevin guy is just a fucking nerd. Go to a DARE meeting where you'll fit in better.

hung_to_bleed said:

you crazy fucking broad

Kevin watched to many episodes of the Mr. T cartoon show.
His favorite album is the Mr. T album with the don't-do-drugs song and the rap about being nice to your mother.

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/python/35/gay.wav

hung_to_bleed said:

listen the songs over man, who do you think this is mr. bob dole mr. premature ejaculation on the face of god. i think i told you not so long ago but the song being over.

Josh_Martin said:

What exactly is so cool about being a fucking junky? If you ask me, that is the bottom of the barrel, second only to child molesters. If you think those who enlist in the military are the bottom of the barrel, I am sickened to even wonder where you place child molesters and herion junkies.....

hung_to_bleed said:


You aren't seriously comparing th justifications for WW2 to the justifications for what's going on now are you??

Did someone say heroin?

RichHorror said:

no no no he said something about child molesters

hung_to_bleed said:

So everyone who parties is a "junkie" to you?

Guess what? Our president has done more blow than I ever will.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

Fuck, I went to the ATM for nothing.

I'd rather be a junking than some constitution hating fascist. Hoser and Kevo have shown themselves to be more unamerican than anyone else in this discussion.

I'd rather be a junkie than anything.

Child molesters and soldiers both get to kill children.
Molesters just do it one at a time.

Josh_Martin said:


I said nothing about justifications, I'm talking about supporting our guys over the enemy. Let me write that again because it is obvious that you lack reading comprehension skills- I AM TALKING ABOUT SUPPORTING OUR GUYS OVER THE ENEMY. We went after the japs for the same reason we are going after the fucking rag heads...unprovoked mass loss of life. Iraqi freedom is just a front. We knew every asshole from Iraq to the soviet block would flock to ANY middle eastern country should be deploy boots on the ground. That's why were there, to kill them all and send them where they pray to be.

i am unamerican for not liking hand jesters and pointing out how much of an idiot some betty page bitch looks when she does them. she was not happy and smacked me and then bit my arm. i am now cured of aids.

Oh, ok. I thought you were talking about some girl having clowns on her hands.

She and I had something truly special.

hung_to_bleed said:

When did Iraq join up with Hitler and bomb Pearl Harbor?

I've always thought the best way to support the troops was to not send them into pointless wars against countries that never attacked us.

i havn't seen anyone supporting the enemy over our soilders. the last dude who did that already got arrested, what was his name? the dude that joined the taliban and is now in gauntanimo, lind something??

Josh_martin said:

Either you are fucking retarded or you need help and you seriously need to consider taking an english-reading and comprehension class.

hung_to_bleed said:

who's the enemy, cause no one in iraq has done anything to me or my family. have they done something to yours. i mean i got a few history books and looking thru them i dont see them fucking with anyone besides Kuwait and we handled that with all those sanctions.

oh oh wait wait i got a good one, why go shoot the enemy who wants to turn my lights out or charge me 35 dollars for being a nickel overdrawn on my account. how about supporting our guys while they storm into oil reps and wipe out anyone who thought it was a good idea to charge 3bucks a galloon.

id support all of that, smoke weed bitch it'd mandatory.

just like when the soviets invaded afghanistan....every fucking whacked out jihadist flocked to afghanistan...precisely what we knew would happen in Iraq. Every asshole would pack up their prayer rug and AK to go fight the infidels. Now were are killing them in their backyard and not ours.

really besides the two attempts on the world trade center when has their been attacks in our backyard.

oh thats right never, cause this is america and unless our protects let something like that happen it wont happen. oh and on a side note just remember while youre worried about people here talking freedom and hating troops and our government just remember those people dying for our freedom are helping us protect shit like this

Here it is!



Thrash 'till death!

hung_to_bleed said:

You suck at making connections.

Especially when you can't see why people are more bothered about iraqis getting killed vs. japs getting killed in WW2.

anonymous said:

This is for you Josh Martin. You obviously have no clue. And you obviously dont know Kevin ,so perhaps you should stop passing judgement about him. Where will you be this fall when he's in Iraq? I'm thinking there will be no Tv for him to watch Mr. T as you may think.

hahahahaahahhahahahahaahah

he's going to Iraq fucking idiot hahahahahahhahah

Muslims don't want me to have free speech. Hoser doesn't want me to have free speech.
I would applaud the death of anyone who thinks I shouldn't have free speech.
I really really really hope Hoser is just a retarded abomination and not an accurate representative of the corps.

And to whoever said that those of us posting here must be unemployed...
We work, its just some of us are smart enough to not have to do backbreaking manual labor for a living.
But you probably think going to college is for pinko faggots.

Anyone who goes to Iraq and actually thinks they are protecting us from anything....um...I'm not even going to be insulting here, I just pity your naivety.
Have fun risking your ass for nothing though.

Josh_Martin said:

He's risking his ass because he enlisted in the military to join in a cause that he believes in. It obviously began when we all witnessed airplanes being flown into the towers in the united states, where for all of our lives we have felt safe. I dont know about you but it scared the hell out of me and at the same time pissed me off to the point of wanting revenge. And yes, the Iraq people are not to blame, however the assholes who started this decided to set up camp there, among other places. Unfortunatly some people have to die that dont deserve to. Not so different than those who dies on Sept 11th. Now what cause do you believe in that will get you off your ass to defend?

Hahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahhahaha

thank you FOXNEWS

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


" Idiot"really? You coward fool. If guys like him didn't enlist there would be a draft & you could have been heading over there too. You should really be thinking him for saving your ass from being drafted.

nope, sorry i think of him as an idiot and he really doubt in my old age id be drafted. sorry try again he's not saving me from anything.

but hey dont die you fucking idiot.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

Sorry I didn't know you were too old . But it doesn't diminish the fact that those who enlist save those of you who dont believe in the cause from being drafted. We should all high five our guys over there. I'll bet there isnt one guy over there who wouldn't come home if he had the chance. No , dont die over there.

Don't worry Josh, I'm not going to Iraq to protect a pinko commie like you. I couldn't care less if you were killed by a Hajji, your mother, aids, overdose or natural causes. To be blunt, I couldn't care less if you live or die. And In no place on this page has anyone tried to take away your free speech, were just excercising our right to free speech by saying your a prick and your point of view is twisted. You clearly know nothing about Iraq or the war, if you think we could have just said that wasn't nice after 9/11, then your a danger to yourself. If you think we could have just left the middle east after ousting the Taliban, then your a danger to yourself. You clearly know nothing about war, muslims, iraq... or well anything except how to hit that perfect vain in your arm. Ever heard of Salmon Pak? It was the largest terrorist training camp in the world, training terrorists from numerous anti-american groups (primarily Ansar Al-Islam a group affiliated with Al Qeada). It was located just east of As Sulayamaniyah on the border of Iran. At 0600 on 28 March 2003 3rd Battalion of 3rd special forces group along with 10,000 Peshmerga fighters (whom are Kurds, which would be the Jews since you love the ww2 comparisons) went on the offensive and engaged and destroyed the Hajji training there. I'm not going to list all the things found there, because this is falling on deaf and ignorant ears anyway. But the most important training thing they found in that camp was a Russian Airliner which was being used to train in Hijacking planes. As you might have known if you knew a damn thing about dictaters, nothing in their territory goes unnoticed, nothing goes on without their permission. Saddam knew these fuckers affiliated with Al Qeida were training in some 9/11 after action reviews, and he allowed it. This fucker has been firing upon our planes securing the no fly zones to keep him from gassing more people, this prick plotted to kill two of our presidents, and was becoming increasingly bold. If you think he was a peaceful country that would never harm an American, then frankly your deaf dumb and blind. Oh and if your a junkie on this page saying Im an idiot for going to Iraq and serving my country, that is the funniest thing Ive ever heard. If your stupid enough to think someone serving their country is stupid, even if your against the war, then your a communist pig to begin with. - Kevin Wesley Fletcher.... Oh and P.S, Mr T was a little bit before my time buddy, but maybe you can tell me all about it, not that his message stuck.

hey try not to get dead

Whiskey-weed and woman, thats ok that your too old to be drafted, you would obviously throw down your weapon and hold up a white flag, only to be beheaded with a rusty knife by your captors. Its just a damn shame you wernt in the World Trade Center, a lot of good Americans died in there. Why do the good die young and the turds live long? What an ironic world we live in.

Why would you tell me not to die? You think my goal over there is to die? No soldiers going into Iraq trying to get the posthumous Medal of Honor. Most want to go over, anti-war or not. Because NOT ALL soldiers agree with the war, I'm sure you never thought of that one. They want to do their part to serve their country, so they can return home to their families and live a quiet life in peace that they EARNED.. not got handed to them. Don't worry about me fella, im not trying to be a hero... just a decent American. -Kevin

anonymous said:

peace man, peace. hope you have a clear conscience while you kill innocent people in a country thats never touched ours or threatend to hurt ours.

hmm weird how that works out, where were there yet theyve never done anything to us. and sorry ive traveled around this country and seen whats worth dying for and whats not. going to some mock war cause "the DECIDER" says so...well first off id never be STUPID enough to sign my name away. again dont get dead.

next time you see your sagrent why dont you ask them what the term "dont get dead" and where it comes from.

yeah now go play solider small mammal.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


You sound like a loser. Get a life.

Josh_Martin said:


Oh and who are you to try and be the moral authority here, you break more laws than anyone I know. Your fag ass bands description says ive come for your children. So you have the right to say it? No shit, but does that mean you should? Your obviously a vile lowlife. Oh and by the way, you think your a flag loving patriot. Name one thing you have ever done to serve country or community? You just type on blogs and think your one of the founding fathers. You seriously beleive your more patriotic than any single member of the armed forces, past or present. Your just a spoiled old man that got handed everything to you on a silver platter. You shouldn't even have the right to call yourself an American. All you've done in your life is vote, thats the only public service. You clearly havent taken your mind meds this morning. Oh and kicking your ass out of the country for treason is clearly not against the constitution, you better go back and read it again there stud. There is a clear set of rules, oh and killing the enemy does not make anyone unconstitutional. Your seriously a retard dude, you need to lay of the drugs for awhile or -begin taking your mind meds again. -Kevin

wow that was an awesome come back, running outta things to say.

hey stop being so american for two seconds and please please dont get dead.

i mean i wouldnt want the Liberals having another body to use to attack the right. hmm i like how that sounds Liberals attack the Right, hmm damn those people.

Hey Whiskey-weed- and woman... at one point, you'll bring up ww2, then say live in the present, then you bring up old rehashed military phrases. What happened to living in the past. At least if I do die, I died for a cause that millions of people world wide beleive in. Inform me of one thing in your life thats worth mentioning. Have you left any legacy in your life? Will their some day be monuments to how you lived? I think not... you trying to belittle members of the armed forces is as wrong as two boys fucking. I think your the one who needs to get a life, and start living it. Go pick up trash on the street, at least then you can say you did a little something for community.

hmm how american of you, montuments, medals, cheap locker room bullying ha "loser" thats a good one.

im quite secure with my life that i dont need a legacy to be left behind, family and friends are all i need. maybe someone should have sent you the memo.

the earth is my community and its telling me im doing ok and need to go smoke some more weed sit on my sister's porch and play the gtr to cars passing by. you lil mammal go have fun playing in the sand and try not to wind up a flag and 21 gun saluate

So the guys sawing off contractors heads are innocent? The guys that suicide bomb swarms of children are innocent? Al Zarqawi was an innocent peace loving man? The guys that keep shooting Saddam Hussiens lawyers when we try to give him the rights we have to fair trial are just innocent peace loving guys? The guys that plant nail bombs next to isreali schools are good guys that were vehemently assaulted by evil Americans? The guys that kill their daughters for holding a boys hand before marriage? The same guys that danced in the streets on 9/11. Are you delusional or just don't even know what the discussion at hand is? Wow, if thats all peace then we never went to war and you can put down your signs bro. Your too ignorant to even talk to brother. Sorry I didn't know the phrase "don't get dead".... you got me on that one, but however I was born in the 80's... and I serve in the new millenium. thats good though, on old military phrases you have me in check mate, now just learn something about your enemy and you then you'll really be talking.

hmm i thought we went to war for WMDs, and theres worse going on here in america. why arent we at war with ourselves.

brotha

Hey and on a serious note... despite the fact that many people here probley hope I get tortured alive by your buddies in Al Qeada. I'd really like to send a thank you (this isnt sarcasm) to all you liberal scum. Ever since I joined the army everyone trys to be super nice and act wicked pro war when theyre not. I havent had a good political argument since way back in the day. I had a lot of fun for awhile, but this has gotten bored and keeps switching subjects... the original point was how no one cares when we get tortured and beheaded but goes up and arms whenever a Hajji gets shot... just to recap. Well thanks for the death wishes and of course all your support and yellow ribbons on your cars. Its been fun, Hope you all don't get a bad batch... haha have fun at your office jobs and talking about maiming people in your lyrics, then crying about war in your spare time. I'm off to kill some Hajji, make sure to protest one of the fuckers I personally shoot in the face. Please hold up a sign and say I should have asked him to stop shooting and lay down his weapon. Pretty please with a needle on top! -Kevin.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:



Hey man, I just graduated highschool last year, I knew damn well there are no weapons of mass destruction. Im going because my country is at war and Im an American. Life is great here, and reguardless of cause of war, im still going to fight it and earn my privilages. I dont care why George Bush went to war, I know why I am. So put down your signs and next time you light up a blunt, make sure to take a shotty for me... because yes they do drug test or id still be smoking. This is truley my last message, I didnt join this chat to argue about the war... it was about everyone spitting on our troops and crying over dead iraqis... plain and simple. -Kevin WESLEY FLETCHER... 1st Battalion-9th Infantry Regiment. 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division. United States Army. I thought it was funny to be called an anonymous hero after stating full name. Well here maybe this is specific enough.

It's a fucking shame when our soilders are wishing American civilians dead for expressing their opinion on a fucking messageboard. Kevin is doing an awesome job at pissing all over unity. Another bad example for the armed services. No wonder more than half of the entire nation isn't supporting the war. You're a soilder, suck it up. Stick to killing people and digging holes, intellectual warfare clearly isn't for you. Good luck in Iraq. CHEERS!

anonymous said:

you never posted a log in name, wise guy. anyone who doesn't make a user name is anonymous.

hahaha UNITY... what unity are you speaking of? You could care less if I died... so why the fuck should I care about you?

I dont have a user name, nor do I care to make one. I am not affiliated with any death metal band, nor do am I an avid listener of it. I was just refered to this page to see the ignorant shit people say. Id say stating my full name makes me less anonymous than have a screen name BORNSOVILE.... haha good point shitbag.

to make a point about me crushing unity when your arguring against why people should care about americans being tortured is beyond ludacris.. do you even realize how irrelevent and incorrect that accusation was... you didnt graduate highschool did ya?

anonymous said:

how did you convince yourself that I don't care if you die??? I'm the only person to sincerly wish you good luck in Iraq. It's not that I don't care, if you read anything at all i wrote in here you'd understand that all I was doing was simply illustrating that it's pathetic that everytime 2 soilders die, we have to stop everything and piss and moan about it. you should care about me since you took that oath to protect your country and countrymen. you're a horrible example of an honorable soilder. your actions only stimulate more apathy towards americans. if you treat your countrymen that way, i can only imagine the way you treat those you're "liberating". it's a simple concept, you treat people like shit, you'll get it in return. it's really not that mind boggling when you come here giving everyone shit who realizes that many Iraqis have been slaughtered for a false cause which has flip flopped countless times since it's inception, that they in turn will not tolerate your merciless naivety. but then again you're not a metal head, you're just some kid who's out of high school, so chances are you've got alot to learn. I'm sure you'll find some clarity in Iraq. Enjoy your time in the service.

anonymous said:

you're the biggest bleeding heart here. death happens in war. fucking deal with it. cry a river, build a bridge and get over it.

BornSoVile said:

go back a few posts, whiskey weed and women did the same thing, cockrot.

BornSoVile said:

You fucking tool, there is no unity; hence all of these dissenting opinions.


BornSoVile said:

more than half of the nation can't agree on anything these days, nevermind a war.


BornSoVile said:


blah blah blah, your elitist attitude is so old and tiresome. You're a yuppey piece of dung who's super-political, highly-educated, professor father shoved all of his opinions down your throat. Have you ever formed your own opinion without daddy whispering in your ear?

You really might want to consider swallowing that chowder load in your mouth.



...just a suggestion

remnants said:

You're just pissed cause I'm better than you. At the same time it's quite flattering that you have enough time to take notes on my habits, what else do you have in the arsenal? Other than that you've presented nothing new and suggested nothing new to the discussion other than some weak childish "you're an elitist" antics. In fact all of your counter points are far too jaded to establish a relative arguement. So you win nothing. Good job!

Josh_Martin said:


Funny how we're the only 2 vets here too.....hmmmmmm. You're the fucking idiot here, Josh. We speak from experience, you have no basis for your arguments, ever.

Like I have said in the past, you're nothing more than a worthless blowhard with an opinion.

BornSoVile said:


It's been said many times before and I must concur, this message board desperately needs an "over your head" icon, as you're still not getting the point...

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


Only a President gets a 21 gun salute, genius.

FUCK YEAH, AMERICA !

what's the point then? you guys made up the illusion that everyone here crys more about iraqis rather than us soilders. don't start a fire you can't put out!

hoser said:

i guess im a genius and my brother was president when he died. you fucking idiot.

sean, i'm sorry but even if you're brother died, you're still not aloud to think rationally.

BornSoVile said:


Dude, seriously....just shut the fuck up...you know absolutely nothing.

BornSoVile said:

i guess the video footage of it isnt real either. i mean 7 soliders and three times fired. i dont know my math must be off somewhere.

hoser said:

freedom of speech. suck it. if you can't handle it leave!

hey hoser, ill pay for you to leave if you swear to never come back.

BornSoVile said:


Hey asshole....I happened to lose quite a few friends myself. You and I need to meet up sometime. Now, you are pissing me off. You have no idea what it's like to lose friends that you live with every day. You have no inkling as to anything about WWII.....and aside from that, your a fucking punk WHORE. You wanna fucking talk about losing friends then talk to me....and I won't just do it on a message board. You don't even know pain, GELHEAD.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

The point isnt about crying over two dead soldiers... the point is non stop news coverage and yuppies libs spewing about the Marines in Haditha then total silence when our guys are tortured alive. You keep saying wen two soldiers get killed... they were tortured alive.. theres a fine difference between being shot and being mutilated while strapped to a chair... go watch a beheading video BORNSOVILE... such a tough sounding name but i bet youll vomit

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


That's not a 21 gun salute genius. Send me the link to the footage.

Wow.......I fucking wanna punch someone's head off.

I guarantee your lying, or you werent paying attention. ive done plenty of military funerals.... its 5 guys that fire 3 times, one soldiers with a bugle and an NCO who presents the folded flag.-Kevin

BornSoVile said:


Shit, I don't win anything??? You win for being the biggest metro with the best acne scars.

I think you're just uncomfortable realizing that you're a bleeding heart.

***RECAP OF THE THREAD***
All these soilders threatened to kill me because I reminded them that people die in war and that they need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and keep on fighting. You can't move forward standing still.

hmm sorry im not up on youtube and all the fun interweb gadgets but if anyone wants to help ill bring the video tape

and lets see here math.

7 soliders firing 3 times each

lets IIIIIII + IIIIIII + IIIIIII = 21 ????

i mean am i not understanding the concept of this

anonymous said:

and trust me, when you lose a brother. you tend to pay close attention to shit like his funeral.

anonymous said:

2 mutilated alive out of 2,000 + dead, not bad odds. We should be thankful it doesn't happen more often. Seen most of the beheading videos, perfect sound track for extreme metal.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


Evidently, you must have been strung out at the funeral.

U say soldiers threatened to kill u... i never threatened to kill you.. you mean a singular threat.. and hes a marine... soldiers and marines are from two different branches of service mr civilian expert on military, oh and we dont have straps on our boots.. quit trying to act like you know what your talking about, you don't know anything more about warriors than you do about fucking

oh right, someones who lost a brother is experiencing no emotion is perfectly calm and reflective at a funeral... i forgot that your so badass

remnants said:

wow how american of you, i guess i should have kept my cool and not show that i had emotion about a family member who served this country and died for it.

hmm i guess i should just say i hope all the fucking morons from NH/Maine who were dumb enough to join up and now get a deployment date get raped, gutted, and left bleeding to die in a country they have no reason to be in.

FUCK YEAH, AMERICA !!!!!

BornSoVile said:


Haha. I think all of that hot pink VO5 gel is seeping into your brain.

BornSoVile said:




Ha you jackass, out of 2000 dead do you know how many were taken alive or whom didnt have their bodies abandoned. We dont leave our dead and we rarely get captured... otherwise the statistic would be 2000 mutialted bodies...

anonymous said:

yes all 5'7" and 150 pounds of my badassness couldnt help but take in everything that was going on around me when one loses a sibling. then again no.

and again you show what a hick you are, hey good for you. cant wait to hear about your families lose on FOXNEWS

gel? Uh were required to cut our hair and not look like a chick in the military, we dont get to sport the ghotti haircut like you and your butt buddies do... everytime u speak it gets more and more irrelevant

Hick... Im from MA just like you buddie, although the difference is I wasnt raised by John Kerry underlings in Boston.

did you all pool your ideas together for that major break thru about Josh's hair or did you call your psychic reader.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

So....you're contradicting what BornSoHairGel is saying? That you should just act like the "ficticious" WWII soldiers in his head and "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps?"

Is that what you're saying?


Jeez, sounds like it to me....

Notice how all these soilders and marines are so insecure. Taking out their frustrations on a couple of dudes on the internet, attacking people for fashion, bitching about elitism but then acting more elite for clarifying obvious truths. I seriously hope you guys beat the shit out of me at a show. I really want to go down as a martyr, thanks for making ever so closer to my dream. Sink the pink and drink a beer. Not everyone hates you, so stop thinking that way. I had no idea Soilders and Marines were this sensitive.

anonymous said:

actually good buddy, im from earth growing up i lived in more then one state my family was a happy member of the regan youth. where we had to move around a lot so my mother could help get thru proper schooling.

and John Kerry, wow you're way off base if youre trying to point me out as a dem.

I dont know why your arguing.. youve been to 1 military funeral... Hoser and I have been to a shitload... Your ignorant if you think your going to tell two acctual service members about military policy on funerals. Your wrong, thats all... end of discussion on that one. And I dont beleive u had a brother in the military die, if you did you wouldnt be such a twisted fuck when it comes to other guys dying in the same way as your brother. Now your just trying anything in a desperate attempt to get some small upperhand.

Dipshit, it's probably time for you to step out of this one if you haven't figured that out already. You're in way over your hair gel...I mean....head.

actually you're the fool since ive got members in state police, army, navy and a few marines in my family.

somehow i doubt you've been to more funerals then me, remember im badass.

haha so you can get bitchy and upset in chatrooms but military members cant. Just so you know, I dont take anything to heart. I just like arguing with morons BORNSOVILE.... for someone who has probley never done anything other than drugs that puts himself at personal risk you sure like to question a veterans courage. Your petty.

You see whiskey weed and woman... I dont beleive you. If you had so many great citizens in your family... what happened to you?

hoser said:

wooooooo name calling, shouldnt you be packing. i mean ill get you a plane ticket so you can go somewhere where you feel free to oppress people and not have to deal with us lil folks having freedoms and all that gay pinko commie liberal haters.

anonymous said:

im what you call a true american and got by with my grades and oh yeah a family that supports me. unlike you, maybe one day you and your daddy can have that game of catch outback.

and you'll be better off for it.

haha a true American that would run if the draft occured. Yea sadly today you are a common American. Im what you call an old fashioned American who still has pride in his country and realizes this land is more important than my personal safety. Your just a nitwit who thinks your entitled to everything that has been handed to you. If thats true about your family, then congradulations you come from a great family, if so you should try to emulate them and do something for this land.

Thank god we have Memorial day, so we can take time to remember and honor those fallen in warfare, instead of making a retarded bleeding heart thread like this everyday. That's all I was saying.

Oh and BORNSOVILE.. I will apologize for my comment earlier, you didnt make any comments about wanting soldiers dead. Many people did make some offhand remarks like that, and its hard to keep up. I'll admit i was wrong there