A lotta the early ones are just plain fucking gone - the BBC used to wipe old tapes and re-use'em. It's only by sheer luck (and the actions of one quick-thinking BBC employee) that the ENTIRE Monty Python run escaped the same fate.
Weird that you'd post this, I've been working through the revival series... I think only the newest season is worth it though, so many clunkers otherwise
yeah, they say that there are "recreations" of the old episodes.
IDK what that means.
I can't wait to watch the 1963's episodes.
I know the BBC recorded a good number of the lost episodes as radio productions. The Genesis of the Daleks is with Tom Baker is the best television I've ever watched.
That sucks. The only 3 seasons I would be interested in watching again (4 if you count Tom Baker) are the ones missing some 100+ episodes.
I'm amazed this stuff is all missing. I mean, I watched it on PBS from the very first episode in the mid-80's. If they stopped destroying tapes in '78, where are all the copies that PBS had?
That sucks. The only 3 seasons I would be interested in watching again (4 if you count Tom Baker) are the ones missing some 100+ episodes.
I'm amazed this stuff is all missing. I mean, I watched it on PBS from the very first episode in the mid-80's. If they stopped destroying tapes in '78, where are all the copies that PBS had?
or... a young peter thought that he was watching all the episodes much like a young aaron and didn't know until last night that there are so many missing episodes.
Nope. I definitely saw all of the missing episodes, including the regeneration of all three of the first doctors. From the linked site, one of those is most definitely among the missing.
Tom Baker was always most popular, but the very first doctor was my favorite.
I was about to post the link to the site that has every episode ever streaming, but it seems as of today he's taken his site down and is selling the URL.
Nope. I definitely saw all of the missing episodes, including the regeneration of all three of the first doctors. From the linked site, one of those is most definitely among the missing.
Tom Baker was always most popular, but the very first doctor was my favorite.
I'm glad that you believe that you saw videos in the 80s that have been missing since the 70s. While I'm watching these, if the story is lacking cause of the missing episodes, can I have a bushel of what you were/are smoking?
Nope. I definitely saw all of the missing episodes, including the regeneration of all three of the first doctors. From the linked site, one of those is most definitely among the missing.
Tom Baker was always most popular, but the very first doctor was my favorite.
I'm glad that you believe that you saw videos in the 80s that have been missing since the 70s. While I'm watching these, if the story is lacking cause of the missing episodes, can I have a bushel of what you were/are smoking?
I'm sorry you don't believe me. At least I saw them, and seems like you never will. Nyah Nyah Nyah bitter man.
I definitely without ANY doubt have seen the transformation of all 3 first doctors. To the point, actually, that I recall how annoyed I was at the second doctor when they panned in on his new face at the end. I was a huge fan of the first doctor and was incredibly sad he was gone.
I also definitely without any doubt saw all of the first Auton and Dalek shows, which are also listed as missing.
This was a favorite show of mine back then, even to the point that I read a ton of the books as well.
"Lionheart also offered stations the choice between the standard 25-minute episodes, or a longer version that some stations termed Whovies. These "omnibus editions", or, "movie versions" as they were also known, edited multi-part serials into a single, feature-length film, by cutting out the opening and closing credits, as well as the recap of the cliffhanger, between episodes. (Some edits were clumsy, particularly during Davison-era stories that frequently would have scenes interrupted by partial credit sequences, or feature the sudden appearance of the "electronic scream" sound effect that usually accompanied cliffhangers). This was the most common format used for PBS broadcasts of the series in the 1980s and 1990s. "
These "Whovies" are what I remember watching for the most part in the mid 80's. However, I also remember previous runs on PBS before that that were terribly out of order and primarily featured Baker era stories. It's like they started it in the middle, stopped, and went back to the beginning and ran it all in order.
@rich Yeah, I was too young to under stand the whole multi-doctor thing
@arrowhead: I have no clue what episodes are missing as I haven't watched this show since I was under 10 and all. Looking at the episode guides means nothing to me and I only vaguley remember the doctors changing, but it's cool and all that you think you saw something that hasn't existed since befoe you were born and a world for of docto who fans have been in the last 21+ years unable to find in any form.
but it's cool and all that you think you saw something that hasn't existed since befoe you were born and a world for of docto who fans have been in the last 21+ years unable to find in any form.
1) I was most assuredly born before these tapes were wiped. They stopped in '78, I was born in '76.
2) It would have been more than 21+ years ago I saw this.
I'm glad you find it more likely that I'm wrong about seeing a show than it is that a wikipedia page might be incorrect.
I read the same wiki article you did, with all it's links. I'm also befuddled as to how it may be, but there are absolutely episodes on that missing episode list that I have seen, such as the pilot and the last with the first doctor. It's like someone telling you you're wrong about seeing the final episode of M.A.S.H. when you can 100% remember the show, cast, plot, and even where you saw it and who you were with.
I'm far more likely to believe that instead of me being a big fat liar, that the local PBS affiliate might have some broadcast copies long forgotten lost somewhere in their archive. New episodes have surfaced as recently as 2005 according to the wikipedia, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if they still had some.
yes and rape victims know beyond a shadow of a doubt who the guy that raped them was, but when the DNA evidence exhonorates someone after 20 years in jail, their worlds are as crushed as yours is right now. memory is an amazingly fickle thing. there are plenty of things that my brother swears happened that really happened before he was born. there are tens of millions of people who think they went to woodstock and didnt. there are also countless thousands who swear they saw tanks on the battle fields in WWI and WWII but we all know it aint so.
so after 5 years of deleting tapes, the boston affiliate bought syndication rights.
this is like that titanic vitage film you tried to sell me recorded with a cellphone.
Damn it, I typed this long thing about licensing and ten my phone rebooted. Anyhow, from what the wiki said, they didn't hve the licensing for the b/w stuff in 1977 so that wouldn't have been part of the syndication.
I have Genesis of the Daleks with Stavros and Tom Baker on VCD - gotta watch that shit later. My roommate is super into the relaunch shit and has never seen a single original episode. Shit's crazy.
I'm starting at the first episode and working my way up. Last night, wastching episode 1 was amazing... all these memories from my childhood are coming back.
