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returntothepit >> discuss >> Affirmative action: promoting the incompetent by Conservationist on Feb 22,2009 6:26pm
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toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 22,2009 6:26pm
A Seattle firefighter who was the top scorer on a promotional test but was denied promotion, while a lower-scoring African-American co-worker was promoted, has won his appeal and will have a trial in his case against the city.

In 2003 Dumont scored 99 on the Civil Service test and received an additional 6 points for in-service qualifications, for 105 out of a possible 110, highest of any candidates for promotion, according to the Court of Appeals documents.

But he was passed over for the job as fireboat engineer in favor of Eric Lanier. Lanier, court documents say, scored 83.9 on the test but received the maximum 10 points for in-service qualifications for a total of 93.9, which ranked him third on the promotion list.

According to court documents, Dumont had no disciplinary complaints in his file, but Lanier’s personnel file showed he had been subjected to official discipline 17 times during his career, including two suspensions.

In the other four instances, the promoted person was a racial or ethnic minority, while the top-scoring person was a white male, court documents say.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/loca...s/2008764850_discrimination20m.html



toggletoggle post by HI BILLY MAYS HERE /w LOVELY MANDY BLAKE at Feb 22,2009 6:38pm

HI BILLY MAYES HERE.

FUCKING SPOOKS FUCKING UP MAH BIG CITY SLIDER SHIT WITH THEIR WATERMELONS AND GANGSTA RAP.


CALL GLENN BECK AND MY MAN HAL TURNER. THEM NIGGERS BE HANGING HERCULES HOOKS BY DAWN.


NOT THAT YOU FUCKING RTTP JEWS DESERVE IT.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Feb 23,2009 4:28am
oh hi 25 years ago. here's your argument back.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 23,2009 10:53am
sacreligion said[orig][quote]
oh hi 25 years ago. here's your argument back.


of all the gay, smarmy, lame attempts at a witty sarcastic comment in the history of return to the pit, this, is the biggest and most epic fail.

congrats buddy



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 23,2009 11:12am
You know something has hit home when the responses to it are flails.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Feb 23,2009 11:29am
Affirmitive action in Seattle? It's more likely than you think.

Hope this guy rightly wins his case.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 23,2009 12:08pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
You know something has hit home when the responses to it are flails.


SERIOUSLY



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Feb 23,2009 12:19pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
sacreligion said[orig][quote]
oh hi 25 years ago. here's your argument back.


of all the gay, smarmy, lame attempts at a witty sarcastic comment in the history of return to the pit, this, is the biggest and most epic fail.

congrats buddy


i'm right though, so i don't really care what your smarmy, lame attempt at a witty burn suggests.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 23,2009 12:29pm
1.it wasn't an attempt at a burn, nor was it smarmy, or an attempt at wit.

2.you are definately not right, this arguement is still current and relevant as long as it is still a problem

3.if you did not care, you would not have responded....would you sweetie?



toggletoggle post by default.user at Feb 23,2009 12:34pm
I have to agree with conservationist. It should be based on individual experience and achievement NOT the color of your skin.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 23,2009 12:48pm
^^obviously.^^



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 23,2009 12:51pm
default.user said[orig][quote]
It should be based on individual experience and achievement NOT the color of your skin.


I agree.

History also lets us know that "diversity" destroys nations, so for other reasons I oppose multiculturalism.



toggletoggle post by aril at Feb 23,2009 1:01pm
This sounds very similar to the kitchen table argument in American History X.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 23,2009 1:03pm
aril said[orig][quote]
This sounds very similar to the kitchen table argument in American History X.


"I WILL CUT YOUR SHYLOCK NOSE OFF!
YOU THINK I'M JUST GONNA SIT HERE AND SMILE WHILE SOME KIKE TRIES TO FUCK MY MOM?
YOU SEE THIS? IT MEANS NOT WELCOME!!"



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 23,2009 1:03pm
oh....wait, wrong AHX dinner convo. hah



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 23,2009 1:07pm
Oh, you mean the convo where the guy gets raped in the shower?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 23,2009 1:32pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Oh, you mean the convo where the guy gets raped in the shower?


haha



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 23,2009 1:54pm
"Awkwarrrrrrd..."



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 23,2009 1:58pm
aril said[orig][quote]
This sounds very similar to the kitchen table argument in American History X.


If you can't win an argument, call the opposition Nazis. Godwin's law to the rescue FTW



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 23,2009 2:14pm
You ever hear about that the real ending to AhX was going to be??



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 23,2009 2:26pm
You mean the big dance number?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 23,2009 2:28pm
oh, i thouht it was more like one giant public school urination on the true john connor's dead body.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 23,2009 2:32pm
reverse discrimination is counter-productive.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 23,2009 2:35pm
Anyone remember when Bill Cosby smashed most of today's black culture? He thinks it's pathetic.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 23,2009 2:36pm
Can anyone disagree with him?



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 23,2009 2:37pm
Bill Cosby is 100% right.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 23,2009 2:39pm
That's not to say that today's white youth/culture is equally as pathetic. White kid's trying to be like a bunch of YO's? Lacking intelligence and deforming the English language is the "in" thing. Sad, really.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 23,2009 2:51pm
The worst is the generation that is in highschool right now.
They're actually writing "cuz" and "u" on essays for school. The english language is being watered down by the youth, mainly because technology is making them LAZY and incapable.
It's a sad, sad future for 85% of American children.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 23,2009 3:22pm
anyone under the age of 21 right now is a useless piece of shit.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 23,2009 4:49pm
HOW COULD THE LESSONS OF THE HUXTABLE FAMILY FALL ON DEAF EARS?!?



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Feb 23,2009 4:50pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
anyone under the age of 21 right now is a useless piece of shit.


Not if you can afford a hot little 19 yo girlfriend. And by "girlfriend" I mean arm candy that speaks only when spoken to.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Feb 23,2009 4:52pm
In addition to not being based on the color of your skin or gender can we also add "My dad's a firefighter and his dad was a firefighter! So even though I'm an oxy popping shithead who couldn't even finish 10th grade and will show up high for the physical exam I'm going to get a job with the BFD" to the list of things not considered?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 23,2009 4:55pm
No, regular nepotism is still OK.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 23,2009 7:18pm
Fuck nepotism, but hail a caste system -- problem solved.




toggletoggle post by Typical Liberal Douchebag at Feb 23,2009 9:31pm
Quaint, some person from the interesting flyover states has graced us with his presence. I'm sure he knows how to match a scarf to a sweater -- not! How utterly out of fashion.



toggletoggle post by dftg at Feb 23,2009 9:42pm
sacreligion said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
sacreligion said[orig][quote]
oh hi 25 years ago. here's your argument back.


of all the gay, smarmy, lame attempts at a witty sarcastic comment in the history of return to the pit, this, is the biggest and most epic fail.

congrats buddy


i'm right though, so i don't really care what your smarmy, lame attempt at a witty burn suggests.


no, you aren't. And we know you don't care about his opinion. You wouldn't be having this argument if you cared about anyone's opinion other than your own.



toggletoggle post by Typical Liberal Douchebag at Feb 23,2009 10:34pm
Caring about the opinions of the hoi polloi (that means "Republicans, auto mechanics and other red state second-raters" in French) smacks of declasse indulgence. Cannot we find some more stimulating topic to discuss, like the great successes of affirmative action in producing the Huxtable Era?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 24,2009 1:22pm
BobNOMAAMRooney said[orig][quote]
In addition to not being based on the color of your skin or gender can we also add "My dad's a firefighter and his dad was a firefighter! So even though I'm an oxy popping shithead who couldn't even finish 10th grade and will show up high for the physical exam I'm going to get a job with the BFD" to the list of things not considered?


i would find someone who is qualified losing a job to such a situation, just as annoying as the above listed story.

all forms of bias are fucked up.....



toggletoggle post by Typical Liberal Douchebag at Feb 24,2009 4:23pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
all forms of bias are fucked up.....


Relax. The only people who have bias are the majority in their suburban homes. They oppose us. We recognize they are dinosaurs, and so are rightly biased against them.



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