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returntothepit >> discuss >> Illuminati survivor accounts by grandmotherweb on Mar 26,2020 9:18pm
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a bit of light reading

https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/survivor-stories/story-of-survivor-of-multi-generational-cult/

'All of my relatives on both sides are members of the cult which is named “the people” or “sha-zee”, in the language of the people.

I left the people and my role as the Red Sorcerer in 1993 after my DID became very apparent to me and others. I could barely function and personality switching was rampant and those were very terrifying times. After forty-three years in the cult I finally said “NO” to certain demands and didn’t care if I lived or died due to that choice. [...]

The “people” begin conditioning their children at the age of three and the primary dissociative links are created in the next two years. It must be done during this time as the children don’t know the difference between illusion and reality. [...]

Primary meeting times within the “people” were/are the equinoxes, solstices, moon cycles, planting, harvest and almost all members are agrarians. Ranchers, farmers, farm equipment dealers, veterinarians, forest managers, ect, are interspersed throughout society. When an organization wishes to be secretive, where better than in the middle of thousands of acres of privately owned land, government lands, etc. [...]

The “people’s” roots lie in western/northern Europe. I am of the 61st generation of the people with each generation being twenty-seven years in length. My mother adamantly told me I was the first sorcerer to leave the people, but I’m certain that is just another of the people’s lies.'

https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/survivor-stories/story-of-survivor-of-multi-generational-cult-part-two/

'I tend to write a lot about proctor personalities since they are the most important part of a person’s personality system, as created by the people, for the people and for the welfare of the core personality. My own proctors were nearly non-integratable as they were constantly concerned about my welfare. I believed that they believed they were the only ones who could protect me from the people and the world at large. Mostly I hoped they would protect me from the memories, which I later learned were all my own. However, the truth that came out after ten years was that I believed I couldn’t live without them. They were the only thing remotely human that I had ever loved or had ever loved me, although they said that was ambiguous at best with all of the abuse. [...]

When I speak of the conditioning of children to force them to believe virtually anything an evil person or persons wants as being simple, it is in theory. Pet a dog and it will be your friend, pull its hair and it will run from you. It’s that simple in theory. As the people condition their members from a very young age and continue it in many forms throughout the member’s life, it is used to protect the secrecy of the group. True, it is used to create modifications in behavior, but the primary goal is to protect each enclave from outside interference. You don’t remain a secret organization of people for over 1,600 years without using extreme measures.'



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 26,2020 10:39pm
TL;DR: The word "illuminati" does not appear anywhere in either of those stories.



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 27,2020 6:44am
NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR CUT AND PASTE ARTICLES.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 27,2020 7:40am
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kill yourself, dtx



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 27,2020 7:53am
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27818568-white-witch-in-a-black-robe

"White Witch in a Black Robe is a memoir about how secret high-level mind control is performed throughout victims' lives and the ways heads of governments and religious organizations participate in this, as well as the healing process, and how one's mind becomes whole again. People wonder what is the matter with the world we live in. Hoffman's book gives us one of the answers we seek.

The memoir begins with her childhood in a multi-generational satanic cult family, her ordinary life in the normal world and her hidden secret tortuous simultaneous world. Eventually, she finds a therapist who can help her disentangle the professional, intricate mind control and decides to tell the world her story.

The second part of the book describes her world travels as an Illuminati queen and prophet, encountering well-known leaders whose names have been changed for this memoir. This section might especially shock the reader and change people's world view. The final section portrays Hoffman's process of weaving the pieces of her mind back together, discovering what was left to heal after her integration process, and becoming adjusted to life with a whole mind.

This book is important for survivors of mind control and ritual abuse, their therapists and counselors, and the general public to finally understand what is really happening in the world."



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kill yourself, dtx



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 27,2020 11:28am
Who the fuck is dtx, you weirdo?



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 27,2020 11:50am
It's another one of her "alters" - She brags about having multiple personalities and being mentally ill, having been "trained to kill," and "talking to her selves" on this very forum, etc, and has a persecution complex as we've all witnessed here. It's obviously some made-up persona, a one-woman false flag team so she can pretend she's persecuted when the only person keeping her down is in her mirror. It's sad, really.



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kill yourself, dtx



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 27,2020 1:37pm
Why don't you just kill him since you claim you're trained to do so? You keep telling "him" to kill himself but that's just like a woman, asking a man to do the work for her. Too bad he's you.



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toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 27,2020 4:01pm
Ahhhhhh....I see now. So she's actually this dtx person?



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 27,2020 4:45pm
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kill yourself, dtx



toggletoggle post by monkeys eat dog shit at Mar 27,2020 6:13pm
monkeys eat dog shit



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 27,2020 6:36pm
It's like Munchhausen but she is the child and the parent (her dad). "Wahh, look at me, I'm a victim!"



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 27,2020 7:11pm
no one cares about the Pedo Mafia's opinions on mental health

https://greyfaction.org/an-open-letter-to-patients-of-conspiracy-therapists/



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 27,2020 8:47pm
Note her continued inability to address anything I've posted in any substantive way. Go back through all her blathering in other past threads, you'll find it's a chronic pattern. As everyone knows, you can't argue against facts. She continually proves me right. It'd be funny if it weren't so truly pathetic. This is someone's life we're talking about here. What a fraud she is. And every day, she faces that same person she despises in the mirror. No matter how far she runs from her pedo-daddy, no matter how much surgery she inflicts upon herself, there is no escaping that same unlovable person in her mirror, day after miserable day. I pity her.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 27,2020 8:51pm
Adam S. Apple said[orig][quote]
Adam's apple



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 27,2020 9:05pm
Exactly. Thank you for proving me right yet again.

And nice try but you don't have an adam's apple, you're a female.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 27,2020 9:09pm
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Adam's apple



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 28,2020 6:37am
You don't have an Adam's Apple, you're a female.....fucking weird thing to obsess over.



toggletoggle post by I AM THE EVILEST at Mar 28,2020 8:28am
I WILL SACRIFICE CHARLOTTE!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 28,2020 9:54am
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Adam S. Apple said[orig][quote]
Adam's apple



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 28,2020 2:11pm
She obsesses over Adam's Apples now because she doesn't have one.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 28,2020 2:53pm
you spread rumors about me that i have an Adam's apple even though i do not now nor have i ever had one



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 28,2020 6:11pm
You are one fucking weird bitch. What else is there to obsess about?



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 29,2020 1:28pm
for you, apparently nothing




toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 29,2020 3:15pm
No Illuminatis....no dxt's....what is this rant about?



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 29,2020 3:27pm
kill yourself, dtx



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 29,2020 5:39pm
It's all infantile cries for attention. I guess her pedo daddy didn't pay enough attention to her when she was potty training, so now her whole life is one big poopy expedition. "Look at meeeeee daddy! Why don't you love me like you love the other kids?" Daddy issues galore, no wonder she's trying to become him.



toggletoggle post by Inquiring minds at Mar 29,2020 6:05pm
Is this the girl who's on and on about wanting an adam's apple?



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 29,2020 6:16pm
She can't have one, she's a female. She clearly has adam's apple envy though, she keeps yakking about it.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 29,2020 6:43pm
you keep spreading rumors about it



toggletoggle post by Fancy Schmancy at Mar 30,2020 6:41am
No one gives enough of a shit about you to bother spreading rumors about some surgically blasted misogynistic twat from Mass. Your cries for "Hey, look at me!" are beyond deafening. You are annoying, I am not whoever this dtx guy is and never have been. You are an attention whore, period. You seem to just piss everyone off. Why don't you fucking scram already? You're like a gnat.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 30,2020 12:05pm
you made a bunch of fake screenshots claiming that I have an Adam's apple, and you don't like being called out on it

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you are dtx120 AKA Steven Marchand AKA Jason Andre Marchand AKA nobody from nowheresville, LA

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toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 30,2020 12:44pm
You don't have an adam's apple, you're a female. And despite any surgeries you have, you are forever, inextricably a female, forever. Grow a beard, still female. Work on an oil rig, still female. Check "male" on the census, still female. Prove me right: Cut your tits off. You'll still be female.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 30,2020 1:40pm
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you'll always be that guy who told everyone that I have an Adam's apple



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 30,2020 1:44pm
The only person who ever brings that up is you. Sorry sweetie, you don't have one, and never will.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at Mar 30,2020 1:46pm
that's not what you were saying about me a year ago

this is literally all you care about



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 30,2020 5:03pm
This chick is stupid as hell.



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 30,2020 5:04pm
She goes from Illuminati to Adam's apples, to dxt, to Christians, to Satanic cults, to Turtleboys....like wtf is wrong with her?



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at Mar 30,2020 5:05pm
Get a job, ugly. Nobody gives a shit.



toggletoggle post by #Facts at Mar 30,2020 5:23pm
She is completely incapable of answering anything I've written in any substantive manner, ever.
Look back through anything I have ever posted, she never addresses any of it.
We can therefore assume that the facts are the facts: She is a nazi pedo with colossal daddy issues who is desperately trying to become him, hates herself, lashes out at others when the only one oppressing her is herself, makes up other "selves" to chat with here, and by her own admission, has no life. She is hopelessly FEMALE, much to her chagrin, and no amount of surgery or hormone replacement will satisfy her, as when she really wants is daddy replacement - She wants to see Daddy in the mirror, not the pathetically unattractive female who even a so-called 'satanist' wouldn't entertain.
Prove me right, Charbacca. Cut off your tits. You'll still be female, and just as repulsive outside as inside.



toggletoggle post by Packer at Mar 30,2020 8:36pm
I laugh at people who talk about illuminati like they are woke..

I dislike gmmommy as much as the next person but some of ya'll troll attempts are wack.

I'm sure majority of you going at her are from TBS, garbage crew.

I will fucking wreck everyone of you, bring it.





toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 3,2020 2:46pm
'“We just established the basis of suicide programming. We already have enough anger to make her a killer.”

The “killer” training was mind-killing or psychic killing. They tricked me into believing that I could kill with my mind.'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22273386-the-enslaved-queen

"Written by a survivor of mind control and ritual abuse who is also a therapist, this memoir exposes the existence and practices of organized criminal groups who abuse children, helps survivors of those abuses, and provides important information for professionals about the dissociative brain. The author's poetic prose contrasts with the horror of the subject matter. The adult journeys back to give voice to infant and child parts of her, describing her handlers' early interventions to destroy bonding and create dissociation, the foundation of reverse-Kabbalah suicide and pathway programming, and the installation of mind control. Scenes from ordinary life are interspersed throughout the memoir. Nazi post-war recruitment of American subjects during the 1940s and 50s (including the infamous Dr. Mengele), children used for prostitution, pornography and the drug trade along with the workings of the Illuminati leadership and their international Feast of the Beast rituals are all included. The memoir also covers attempts at recovery, experiences with cult therapists in disguise and finally the author's work with an honest, competent therapist, which led to healing and her brain melding together. The ending acknowledges spiritual experiences, the power of love, the memory process, and thoughts on living and surviving a life such as hers."



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 3,2020 4:31pm
Guess what?



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toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 3,2020 11:24pm
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bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 4,2020 8:13am
The only thing you could destroy is a set of underpants.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 12,2020 7:19am
grandmotherweb said[orig][quote]
'“We just established the basis of suicide programming. We already have enough anger to make her a killer.”

The “killer” training was mind-killing or psychic killing. They tricked me into believing that I could kill with my mind.'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22273386-the-enslaved-queen


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vital_Remains




toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 12,2020 7:45am
Sweet wikipedia find of the only metal band you've ever heard of. I don't listen to Maroon 5.



bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 12,2020 7:48am
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I am the Carole Baskin to your Joe Exotic


i totally fed Scott Wily's regurgitated soul to this forum

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toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 14,2020 5:55am
Bah, you couldn't eat a wet fart.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 14,2020 8:19am
you couldn't eat my torch



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 14,2020 9:17am
No interest....weirdo



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 14,2020 10:24am
no one on this forum has any interest in you, stalker



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 14,2020 1:31pm
You spelled "our forum" wrong.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 14,2020 2:05pm
you don't belong here, bible-thumper



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 14,2020 3:37pm
You don't belong here, tranny with mutilated body.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 14,2020 3:48pm
i've been here for 10 years, incel

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i posted this video to draw attention to your stalker-esque qualities and to point a light at how non-metal you are

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this is you:

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bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 14,2020 5:09pm
More pop. Wrong forum. Try returntogaymusic.com



bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 14,2020 6:02pm
go back to Disqus, poser. you are not on Disqus anymore.
you only post here because Paul banned you from his blog for threatening moderators, the same way you have been threatening me for over a year.

Disqus literally shut down their entire channel system because of you. you are the Leeroy Jenkins of Disqus, and nothing but another Scott-Wily-wannabe on this forum.


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 14,2020 7:49pm
hahahaha not who you think I am. I swear that on my children's lives.



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 14,2020 7:50pm
and I don't even what disquis is....think it's some kind of weighted plate you throw around at a track meet.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 14,2020 7:54pm
you don't have kids, dtx



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 15,2020 7:24am
Last time I checked, my 2 little ones were upstairs sleeping. You are DTX, DTX.



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 15,2020 7:28am
Oh, also....just wondering when my name is going to change. Like, when are you gonna start to piss and moan about someone else? I need a new person to be....I mean, I've been Brett Killoran, Turtleboy, Aiden Kearney, Lucien Greaves, DTX...etc. Just wondering what neato plan you're gonna hatch next.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 15,2020 7:31am
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you don't have kids, dtx



toggletoggle post by nobody cares at May 15,2020 12:14pm
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Oh, also....just wondering when my name is going to change. Like, when are you gonna start to piss and moan about someone else? I need a new person to be....I mean, I've been Brett Killoran, Turtleboy, Aiden Kearney, Lucien Greaves, DTX...etc. Just wondering what neato plan you're gonna hatch next.



toggletoggle post by grandmotherweb at May 15,2020 1:54pm
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Oh, also....just wondering what fake screenshot you're gonna make next.



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