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returntothepit >> discuss >> Most black metal is fake by conservationist on Jan 16,2014 3:31pm
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toggletoggle post by conservationist  at Jan 16,2014 3:31pm

I think that throughout the course of history, there have always been very few bands that have been able to live up to my standards, at least of black metal… Then there are thousands and thousands of misrepresentations and misconceptions of it. But true and genuine black metal is always something that will always be a minority in the music scene. A small minority even. Then there's all these people that kind of want to… It's just like punk, you know? You have a few real punk bands, and you have a thousand bands that try to do the same thing, but fail because they don't have the right spirit and they don't really believe in it. But at the same time, it fascinates a lot of people, because it is an extreme way of expression, and it is controversial, and it's therefore also popular and people are fascinated by it. That's why it's also so often, like with other forms of extreme art, whatever it may be, that's why it's also so often misused, and just even commercialised, just for the sake of that, horror sells. And extreme metal sells, controversy sells, and that's why there's so many charlatans in this kind of music.

"WATAIN's DANIELSSON: True And Genuine Black Metal Will Always Be A Minority In The Music Scene," Blabbermouth, January 15, 2014


Apparently this guy has some kind of melodic heavy metal band and they're relatively well known, but I've never heard them. I think he makes a good point though. Most black metal is ersatz at best or a forgery at worst.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 16,2014 3:32pm
WATAIN has been cashing in on the dead fad for years now.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 16,2014 3:42pm
riding on Dissection's coattails also sells.



toggletoggle post by TimRiley at Jan 16,2014 3:43pm
i met erik at a bar in brooklyn last fall. he weighed about 12 pounds, reeked of body odor, and kept mostly to himself smoking lucky strike filterless cigarettes. i talked to him for a bit outside and at the bar in between bands. never listened to watain before i met him (nor have i since). we talked about Worship. an actually good funeral doom band whose frontman leaped of a bridge in Canada to his death; apparently he was friends with the guy. overall, he was an egoless nice guy to talk to. reading this, he seems to have a Varg Vikernes lameness to him. guess there's a difference between talking in person in a civil fashion versus promoting yourself in a public relations parade.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 16,2014 4:38pm
I like sworn to the dark a lot, but I don't mind rock and roll black metal.



toggletoggle post by koran koran at Jan 16,2014 4:41pm
duran duran is more necro that most of the stuff out there. everyone else is simply rehashing ideas from the past 25 years, just don't forget to repress it in a new color every 5 months! these falses are more likely to go to jail for tax evasion let alone stabbing their bandmates to death (FALSE THAI GUY DOES NOT COUNT)

it was dead on arrival....



toggletoggle post by fake judd at Jan 16,2014 4:42pm
tax evasion? you mean that faggot fake judd?



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 16,2014 5:01pm
rehashing ideas isn't always a bad thing though. when you get down to it, all metal is just a rehashing of Black Sabbath. The idea is to use the idea and do something with it.



toggletoggle post by RTTP DEPARTMENT OF YOU GUYS ARE FAGS at Jan 16,2014 5:23pm
Fake or not, it's pretty fucking gay.



toggletoggle post by only absurd is real at Jan 16,2014 5:49pm



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 16,2014 5:53pm
Yet you extol Ledney who is the biggest, falsest cunt of them all. Forty-nothing live at home with mom (I should have counted the crucixifixes hung on walls as they were abundant), sweatpant wearing, tobacco chewing, Necrovore plagiarizing, pill swallowing, in-it-for-the-money false fucking halfwit twat.



toggletoggle post by DYA in a supporting role as Redman at Jan 16,2014 6:52pm
GET'EM



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Jan 16,2014 8:26pm
And that's why when Ryan was interviewed for the zine I wanted every question to be about Profanatica.



toggletoggle post by RTTP DEPT OF CANNED NIGGER RESPONSE at Jan 17,2014 12:26am
Most arduous tasks are nigger.



toggletoggle post by conservationist  at Jan 17,2014 1:35am
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
Yet you extol Ledney who is the biggest, falsest cunt of them all. Forty-nothing live at home with mom (I should have counted the crucixifixes hung on walls as they were abundant), sweatpant wearing, tobacco chewing, Necrovore plagiarizing, pill swallowing, in-it-for-the-money false fucking halfwit twat.


Yes, he's totally awesome. Or rather, his art is or can be. I'm not a huge fan of DBAG but Profanatitas and Thy Kingdom Cum are amazing. Only ass is true!

The same is true of other heroes like William S. Burroughs, but less so for the more self-actualized like Huxley, Blake, Nietzsche, etc.



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Jan 17,2014 10:22am edited Jan 17,2014 10:22am
conservationist said[orig][quote]

Yes, he's totally awesome. Or rather, his art is or can be. I'm not a huge fan of DBAG but Profanatitas and Thy Kingdom Cum are amazing. Only ass is true!

The same is true of other heroes like William S. Burroughs, but less so for the more self-actualized like Huxley, Blake, Nietzsche, etc.

He wrote some great books but Nietzsche was a bitter, awkward nerd, the exact opposite of a self-actualized hero.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 17,2014 10:32am
Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.



toggletoggle post by shutup biased fagget at Jan 17,2014 11:01am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.


shutup biased fagget



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 17,2014 11:10am
Being a biased fagget > being a neutral fagget



toggletoggle post by DYA is BRANN AGAIN at Jan 17,2014 11:40am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Being a biased fagget > being a neutral fagget


A thousand times this.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with no real opinions or capacity for critical thinking?"



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 17,2014 11:42am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.


this reminds me of a funny quote:

marry a good woman and you'll die a happy man. marry a bad one and you'll die a philosopher.



toggletoggle post by whitenoiseblackchaos at Jan 17,2014 1:00pm
Only Morbid Anal Fog is real! All hail the Nokturnal Bacon Throne!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo3mDaiwNQk&feature=player_detailpage



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Jan 17,2014 3:14pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.

I'm not disagreeing with you (but Nietzsche is).



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toggletoggle post by geminiII at Jan 18,2014 7:27am
Yeti, I love your quote. if you marry a good woman you're fine. Otherwise you're just a cold hearted philosopher. Literally perfect. Sums up the life of the Common New England black metal fag man. either you have a good life and the perfect woman. Or no woman and a dilemma dated horrible life. Agreed!



toggletoggle post by truequintessence_nli at Jan 18,2014 11:55am
All types of metal are 'forgery' Watain fucking blows and he is one to talk if he really thinks his band is so original.



toggletoggle post by conservationist  at Jan 18,2014 12:37pm
Snowden said[orig][quote]
Nietzsche was a bitter, awkward nerd, the exact opposite of a self-actualized hero.


Actually, there's no evidence of that. He seemed cheerful to those who knew him. A bit obsessive but well within the range of normal.




toggletoggle post by Snowden at Jan 19,2014 1:17am
conservationist said[orig][quote]
Snowden said[orig][quote]
Nietzsche was a bitter, awkward nerd, the exact opposite of a self-actualized hero.


Actually, there's no evidence of that. He seemed cheerful to those who knew him. A bit obsessive but well within the range of normal.

Meh, that's not what I've read. But either way, definitely not living the dionysian etc. existence he advocated in writing.



toggletoggle post by Captain Obvious at Jan 19,2014 6:48am
Most black metal is fake. No shit. [/end thread]



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