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returntothepit >> discuss >> Pop music too loud and all sounds the same: OFFICIALLY by Alx_Casket on Jul 26,2012 12:40pm
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toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jul 26,2012 12:40pm
(Reuters) - Comforting news for anyone over the age of 35, scientists have worked out that modern pop music really is louder and does all sound the same.

Researchers in Spain used a huge archive known as the Million Song Dataset, which breaks down audio and lyrical content into data that can be crunched, to study pop songs from 1955 to 2010.

A team led by artificial intelligence specialist Joan Serra at the Spanish National Research Council ran music from the last 50 years through some complex algorithms and found that pop songs have become intrinsically louder and more bland in terms of the chords, melodies and types of sound used.

"We found evidence of a progressive homogenization of the musical discourse," Serra told Reuters. "In particular, we obtained numerical indicators that the diversity of transitions between note combinations - roughly speaking chords plus melodies - has consistently diminished in the last 50 years."

They also found the so-called timbre palette has become poorer. The same note played at the same volume on, say, a piano and a guitar is said to have a different timbre, so the researchers found modern pop has a more limited variety of sounds.

Intrinsic loudness is the volume baked into a song when it is recorded, which can make it sound louder than others even at the same volume setting on an amplifier.

The music industry has long been accused of ramping up the volume at which songs are recorded in a 'loudness war' but Serra says this is the first time it has been properly measured using a large database.

The study, which appears in the journal Scientific Reports, offers a handy recipe for musicians in a creative drought.

Old tunes re-recorded with increased loudness, simpler chord progressions and different instruments could sound new and fashionable. The Rolling Stones in their 50th anniversary year should take note.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/26/...science-music-idUSBRE86P0R820120726



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jul 26,2012 12:42pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
Comforting news for anyone over the age of 35


you know who you are.



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Jul 26,2012 12:44pm
only real pop music is real.



bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 26,2012 12:49pm
Real pop music?

Tears for Fears, buddy.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 26,2012 1:03pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Real pop music?

Tears for Fears, buddy.


Seconded....great band.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 26,2012 1:16pm
substitute "pop music" for "black metal" and it has the same effect.



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at Jul 26,2012 2:07pm
two words: Phil Collins



toggletoggle post by Burnsy at Jul 26,2012 6:15pm
Great point yeti. I'd actually be interested for them to do the same thing with black metal. A lot less data to crunch.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 26,2012 6:23pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
substitute "pop music" for "bwack metal" and it has the same effect.


Fixd.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Jul 26,2012 7:18pm
old news



toggletoggle post by floatingeyecorpse at Jul 26,2012 8:20pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
substitute "pop music" for "black metal" and it has the same effect.


Are you saying this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pticScz0KNo
Sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SbhD-BCKCQ
And it also sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piteXSW7EE8
And also this sounds exactly the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sbpRipi4Bw

Yes, all black metal truly sounds alike



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 27,2012 7:46am
only taking things literally is real.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 27,2012 8:13am
About 90% of black metal is generic hogwash with minor chords. So yes, a lot of black metal sounds the same. It fucking sucks and might as well be pop music at this point.



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