Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early.
Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early.
Uhhhhhhhhh.... They were extremely influential in the development of a genre of music. doesn't matter if theyre white.
You think a bunch of bling bling inner city black guys would have the balls to admit the music they participate in was influenced by some scrawny white Jewish NYC kids in the 80s?
The argument here is how they affected the development of a genre. I think the counter argument has no reason to be said. You're a fool for not realizing their importance. Give it up.
Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early.
That's racist. Nobody should be rapping, regardless of the color of their skin. Worst genre of music ever.
Okay, with my asshole statement out of the way, the Beastie Boys were something I listened to and took enjoyment in as a kid. The news did startle me for a second because I hadn't heard anything about the guy's cancer, but when it comes down to it, the music just hasn't been relevant to me in ages. I briefly considered going back and listening to some of it but so much more of me was just like "nahhhh" that I didn't bother.
47/48 is too young to die.
post by nagoodak at May 4,2012 2:20pm
I have been influenced by the Beasties. Paul's Boutique is proof of how good sampling can be.
RIP
I still say if rap isn't music than neither is metal.
I think of rap as poetry set to a beat. Not really the most challenging genre from a structural soundpoint, I guess, but it still takes skill. I just HATE (and I mean really hate) the way it sounds.
well technically it's not. rap isn't based on notes. it can't really be transcribed. yeah rap "contains" music but by the classical definition of music, it's not, whereas metal is. rap is still a temporal art. it's not devalued just because you can't call it "music". anyway it's a stupid timeless argument. rap is rap.
I'm sure they've inspired many auctioneers' flow. I do like hip hop, sampling, and I find the turntablism movement pretty interesting. They had some catchy melodies, but I wouldn't say they were huge influences on any of those things.
I'm sure they've inspired many auctioneers' flow. I do like hip hop, sampling, and I find the turntablism movement pretty interesting. They had some catchy melodies, but I wouldn't say they were huge influences on any of those things.
I'm sure they've inspired many auctioneers' flow. I do like hip hop, sampling, and I find the turntablism movement pretty interesting. They had some catchy melodies, but I wouldn't say they were huge influences on any of those things.
Then you're not paying attention.
seriously dude. before licensed to ill the term "gangsta rap" didn't even exist. funny that it started off as a joke.
arguing that rap isn't real music. seriously?
really?
post by arktourap at May 4,2012 4:50pm
Missing my point. It's funny that people get offended by the fact that rap doesn't fit the classical definition of music. Rap has it's own definition. Go ahead and transcribe a rap song. You can't. Also lol again at the "if rap isn't then metal isn't either" chestnut. Don't get offended bros. Rap is rap and rap is not music, shit's been confuurmed by smarter people than you or I.
Snoop Dogg tweeted about it calling him a true pioneer. Bunch of other rappers and hip hop artists are too.
NO INFLUENCE? Where are you alx, you need to admit you were wrong here.
OK, compare that to Michael Jackson. People gave credit to him as an influence all the time when he was ALIVE. Sympathy tweets don't count. I know you're smart enough to know that much.
I'm not denying that they were a talented and successful group, but it pisses me off when the short attention spanned majority gives this level of attention to someone who most of us (let's face it) haven't heard about in years. When someone dies, all of a sudden our cohort sees it fitting to have an anniversary of their death every year and play their music on that day. It's as if you only play those songs to remember their lives. You didn't fucking know them! Music is music, listen to it when the mood strikes. Sorry I didn't immediately respond, I was grocery shopping in Chinatown.
Missing my point. It's funny that people get offended by the fact that rap doesn't fit the classical definition of music. Rap has it's own definition. Go ahead and transcribe a rap song. You can't. Also lol again at the "if rap isn't then metal isn't either" chestnut. Don't get offended bros. Rap is rap and rap is not music, shit's been confuurmed by smarter people than you or I.
I think the problem is that you're using "the classical definition of music" and "music" as if they were the same thing. That's one way to look at it, but it's not the only one and certainly not the "right" one by any objective standard.
post by snowden at May 4,2012 6:20pm edited May 4,2012 6:20pm
I'm not denying that they were a talented and successful group, but it pisses me off when the short attention spanned majority gives this level of attention to someone who most of us (let's face it) haven't heard about in years.
I don't think this "most of us," i.e. people posting on a New England heavy metal messageboard, are a very good barometer of a rapper's cultural relevance.
Missing my point. It's funny that people get offended by the fact that rap doesn't fit the classical definition of music. Rap has it's own definition. Go ahead and transcribe a rap song. You can't. Also lol again at the "if rap isn't then metal isn't either" chestnut. Don't get offended bros. Rap is rap and rap is not music, shit's been confuurmed by smarter people than you or I.
I think the problem is that you're using "the classical definition of music" and "music" as if they were the same thing. That's one way to look at it, but it's not the only one and certainly not the "right" one by any objective standard.
Snoop Dogg tweeted about it calling him a true pioneer. Bunch of other rappers and hip hop artists are too.
NO INFLUENCE? Where are you alx, you need to admit you were wrong here.
OK, compare that to Michael Jackson. People gave credit to him as an influence all the time when he was ALIVE. Sympathy tweets don't count. I know you're smart enough to know that much.
I'm not denying that they were a talented and successful group, but it pisses me off when the short attention spanned majority gives this level of attention to someone who most of us (let's face it) haven't heard about in years. When someone dies, all of a sudden our cohort sees it fitting to have an anniversary of their death every year and play their music on that day. It's as if you only play those songs to remember their lives. You didn't fucking know them! Music is music, listen to it when the mood strikes. Sorry I didn't immediately respond, I was grocery shopping in Chinatown.
I feel like the hip-hop world has acknowledged the Beastie Boys' influence plenty by SAMPLING THEM NONSTOP FOR DECADES, to the point where it didn't really need to be acknowledged out loud. (Except, it has been acknowledged, out loud and in print, by tons and tons and tons of artists in the field. Since the beginning. How you are not aware of this is another discussion entirely.)
You guys are obviously forgetting the classic Dwell Records release No Sleep Till Beastie: A Tribute To The BEASTIE BOYS... Love BLACK WITCHERY's take on "She's Crafty" though I coulda done without the ROCKAPELLA track.
post by NSBM_SCENE at May 5,2012 2:46am
JEWS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY MUSIC
post by BSV at May 5,2012 10:50am
some instrumental stuff is ok. sabotage was a cool video. never really been a rap fan. i never understood why they would got played on aaf or bcn all the time, must be cause their jewish. where can i hear the stuff they did when they were a hardcore band?
some instrumental stuff is ok. sabotage was a cool video. never really been a rap fan. i never understood why they would got played on aaf or bcn all the time, must be cause their jewish. where can i hear the stuff they did when they were a hardcore band?
Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early.
...Wrong. Easily some of the best rappers around today are white as fuck.
some instrumental stuff is ok. sabotage was a cool video. never really been a rap fan. i never understood why they would got played on aaf or bcn all the time, must be cause their jewish. where can i hear the stuff they did when they were a hardcore band?
bennyhillifier this is from 1996, this ep was all hardcore.
also, most of their records have atleast one hardcore song
