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returntothepit >> discuss >> My Desktop just keeps shutting off by the_reverend on Mar 22,2011 9:32am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 9:32am
Anyone have any clue what to check? If my computer cranks away at 100% CPU for a few minutes, it just turns off with no warning what so ever. Also there are no event logs about it. Then when it does start back up, windows hangs for a long time... I click on a bunch of things and after 5 minutes or so, it opens up the things that I clicked on.
Ideas?
this is very very very annoying and stopping me from doing work.



toggletoggle post by Uh at Mar 22,2011 9:37am
I've seen this with a bad video card, bad CPU and an overheating CPU. Good luck, man.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 9:37am
check power supply, then check hard drive.



toggletoggle post by Uh at Mar 22,2011 9:38am
Do a memtest86 about it.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 9:40am
or overheating, yeah. check your heatsink. CPUs rarely act differently, they either work or don't work, so that should be fine.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 9:43am
the power supply usually causes random complete shutoffs, it's probably that. your motherboard probably has a safe temp threshold before it shuts off due to overheating. it might beep or notify you in POST if that's the case.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 9:45am
The power supply is my first guess... so please tell me how you "check it". Unless "check it" translates into "replace it".



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 9:47am
I've also been curious cause my operating system isn't the most legal. I'm debating loading up a linux image and running a CPU burn program to see if it happens.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 9:52am
there's a whole bunch of part swapping you could do depending on what you have lying around. you try running the system at bare minimum parts, but it won't give you a definitive answer. taking a voltmeter to the PS won't tell you much either. power supplies are hard to diagnose but easy to replace.

i'm guessing you're running a lot of drives and a beefy system on a cheap power supply. wattage tells nothing about the quality. the PS itself could be fine but isn't made to run a system like yours.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 9:53am
also the legality of your OS wouldn't cause random shutdowns. it's either cracked or not cracked, if it's not cracked it would just annoy you and then lock you out.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 9:57am
i had so many random shutdown problems on my quad core system because i was running some cheap circuit city rocket dog power supply, after my rosewill power supply died for whatever reason. once i sprung for a corsair it was a huge difference, quieter system with power to spare.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 10:03am
fwiw, i couldn't diagnose my PS issue with prime95 or any other CPU stress tester. 3D games/stress tests would be more revealing, video cards suck loads of power and my system would only shut off during 3D apps.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 22,2011 10:05am
Holy fuck, did this just make it 10 semi-constructive posts without anybody making the system32 joke? Good work, gentlemen, commendable. Your internet achievement certificates are in the mail.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 10:07am
my drives in this machine are
1) 128GB SSD
2) 1TB wd green drive

I also have 8-10 CDroms, but they are all USB external units. But I can get it to shut down with just about any cranking.

I think the ps is a 500w OCZ supply. I just replaced it like a year ago. I think I have another 400w ps upstairs, but I think it's missing one of the connectors for the CPU.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 10:10am
hmm. i'd swap the PS if you can. if it's an intel quad core it has the two power connectors, but it should be able to limp along with one. stick your baguette in it. DISCLAIMER: i am not responsible for your baguette.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Mar 22,2011 10:28am
try to get it to stop shutting off



toggletoggle post by nekronotshaver  at Mar 22,2011 10:33am
did you try deleting your beard's system 32 folder?



toggletoggle post by Slag at Mar 22,2011 10:38am
The power supply is generally the weakest link. Never go cheap or undersized. Ever.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS should be working at Mar 22,2011 10:40am
yea sounds like there's a short somewhere



toggletoggle post by Pires at Mar 22,2011 11:21am
i bet you dropped it on purpose...time for a new computer.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 11:46am
did I tell you that story?
That was my work laptop and the station's laptop.

Anyhow, I loaded up primer95 and got it to die in under 2 minutes.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Mar 22,2011 11:51am
did you check the heatsink?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 11:53am
yep, check the heatsink and check your CPU temps in the BIOS. right now i'd say CPU overheating or power supply, or both.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 11:58am
ok, it was off and is running at 81C. let me run primer until it reboots and I'll see again. 81C seems a little warm, no?



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Mar 22,2011 12:00pm
sounds about right for an intel chip! seriously though, check to see that the cpu fan is spinning, and if it is, make sure the heatsink is in solid contact with the chip



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 12:01pm
yeah it should stay in the 70s. see if your BIOS has an auto-shutdown temperature threshold. it could be shutting down because of that, or legitimate overheats.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 12:02pm
ok, primer95 until it rebooted and now it's 92C.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Mar 22,2011 12:18pm edited Mar 22,2011 12:18pm
oh and make sure your heatsink doesn't look like this:


If it does, just buy a laptop. lol



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 12:29pm
I was just coming to post that. I'm still thinking of getting a i7-2820QM laptop. I just wish that they would make a cheaper dell with it. Right now, my choices are HP or Cybertexh.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 12:37pm
ok, I cleaned out the above cat parts, cleaned off the thermal paste, put some new thermal paste, banged the CPU fan back on and it's run through 4 primer95 cycles sofar.



toggletoggle post by Slag at Mar 22,2011 12:37pm edited Mar 22,2011 12:38pm
You're just looking for an excuse to justify the laptop purchase to yourself. Don't fucking lie to us.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 12:44pm
are you kidding me?!? of course I want a new laptop. the new sandy bridge Hp laptops score a 8K on passmarks where my laptop gets a 1.1K and my quadcore (q9550) gets a 4K. The RTTP server gets a 3.9K.


Anyhow, I ran primer95 for over ten minutes, rebooted and looked at the bios. 46C.
problem solved I would sya.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 12:53pm
ok, so ark is the one that gave me the points to fix this so everyone needs to suck his dick? kay?



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Mar 22,2011 12:56pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
did you check the heatsink?







toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 1:10pm
yeah i think we double-teamed you



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 1:11pm
no, it was the BIOS tip for the temp that got me to figure it out.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 22,2011 1:16pm
Gaucher is now a Knight of RTTP. (Order of the Deleted System32)



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Mar 22,2011 1:16pm



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 22,2011 1:22pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
Anyone have any clue what to check? If my computer cranks away at 100% CPU for a few minutes, it just turns off with no warning what so ever. Also there are no event logs about it. Then when it does start back up, windows hangs for a long time... I click on a bunch of things and after 5 minutes or so, it opens up the things that I clicked on.
Ideas?
this is very very very annoying and stopping me from doing work.


Definitely sounds like overheating. I'm not using the rest of the thread. Just delete your system32 folder.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 1:31pm
SO MUCH BETTER! processing 32 pictures at a time with 3-6 seconds each.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 1:31pm
my computer is fast FINALLY.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 22,2011 1:32pm
Glad you got the centipedes out of your vagina, Aaron.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 22,2011 1:33pm



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Mar 22,2011 2:08pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
SO MUCH BETTER! processing 32 pictures at a time with 3-6 seconds each.


What exactly did you do?



toggletoggle post by conservationist  at Mar 22,2011 2:20pm
Uh said[orig][quote]
overheating CPU


Swap out the power supply first to check.

do not place penis near fan



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Mar 22,2011 2:48pm edited Mar 22,2011 2:49pm
conservationist said[orig][quote]
Uh said[orig][quote]
overheating CPU


Swap out the power supply first to check.

do not place penis near fan


1UP has always been the greatest danger to CPU, you're absolutely right.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2011 3:04pm
ArrowHeadNLI said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
SO MUCH BETTER! processing 32 pictures at a time with 3-6 seconds each.


What exactly did you do?
cleaned off the CPU/heatsink/fan, and then fapped.



toggletoggle post by Mutis  at Mar 22,2011 4:02pm
cuntfuckious say, get a ram doubler



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 22,2011 4:32pm
conservationist said[orig][quote]
Uh said[orig][quote]
overheating CPU


Swap out the power supply first to check.

do not place penis near fan


Why spend money on replacing hardware as a first step when there's more you can do to diagnose a potential heat issue for free?



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