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returntothepit >> discuss >> Nationalism rising across Europe by Nightbringer Morningstar, Sodomizer of Christ on Apr 2,2009 12:46am
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toggletoggle post by Nightbringer Morningstar, Sodomizer of Christ at Apr 2,2009 12:46am

Nationalists don’t want to just change laws — they want an entirely different type of civilization. We haven’t heard much from them since 1945, since nationalist groups have been the province of mostly violent losers with a few disaffected intellectuals, but now nationalism seems to be coming back.

Because it was marginalized, and because people who take on the world with losing “but correct” causes are idolized by those who did not adapt to the current social order, nationalist movements have been cross-associated with hate groups, with few nationalist movements escaping the epithets, violence, anti-Semitism and similar brouhaha within their ranks.

However, that is changing, as nationalist movements make alliances with Zionists and vice-versa and nationalist movements grow across Europe as they drop violent orthodoxy for a coherent vision of an organic society that is both cultured, green — and monocultural.

Nationalism: ethnic identity is important


Exciting times, my friends... dig out those old DRI CDs.



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 2:13am
As long as it turns into really violent Nationalism where England Decimates every other country via soccer hooliganism then I am all for it...



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 2:22am
The circling planet ball is no navel contemplating Nirvana, but rather a vast whirling star lit Valhalla, where victorious battlers quaff the foaming hearts-blood of their smashed up adversaries, from the scooped out skull goblets of the slain in neverending war. (Ragnar Redbeard)

Utopia is a non existent pipe dream... Strife is Life. Nuke the planet. Revert the causal back to its acausal origin. Why? I dunno... Sounds like a good time



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 2:29am
Introduction from Grimoire of the Dark Gods
(ONA)





The Dark Gods exist in the acausal realm and this realm is joined to our causal, physical universe in two ways - first, through Star Gates which are regions of space-time where the two universes intersect, and second, in the medium of our minds since certain levels of consciousness in their very nature are "gates". Archetypes are to our causal perception simply ordered elements of some of the energy present in various forms in the acausal universe.

The acausal universe itself may be described as that aspect of the cosmos bounded by acausal time and possessing more than three spatial dimenions; the causal universe may be described as that aspect of the cosmos bounded by causal, or linear, time and possessing three spatial dimensions at right angles to each other.

The entities known to esoteric tradition as the Dark Gods are beings which exist in the acausal universe. Other such beings probably exist in the acausal realm, but the Dark Gods are known to us through having, at various times in our evolution, 'intruded' into our spatial universe.

It is possible for individuals, by virtue of the nature of consciousness, to open pathways to the acausal by various methods and thus draw into our phenomenal world various acausal energies or forces. Such forces, due to the nature of the acausal, are often seen to be from our point of view "evil" or negative.

Three types of drawing down are possible. i) localized of an individual on a small scale of small energies; ii) of certain powerful forces or entities to physical manifestation in our universe; iii) returning to our planet and universe the race of beings known as the Dark Gods - tradition knows some of these beings by names such as Atazoth, Shugara, Athushir, Budsturga and Gaubni.

The first and second forms of drawing down involve those pathways residing (mostly dormant) in the mind, while the third involves the Star Gates themselves of which three are known to us as areas in space near the stars Dabih, Naos and Algol. Physical travel to the acausal is possible through these Gates, but it is nevertheless possible to draw through them by various methods of powerful ritual the Dark Gods themselves, the time and stars being aligned aright.

This Grimoire shows how to awaken the latent pathways in our consciousness and, most sinister of all, how the Dark Gods themselves may be returned to Earth.



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 2:35am
Beliefs
The Order postulates Satanism as being a highly individualized quest that aims to create self-excellence and wisdom, by undertaking challenges that allow a person to transcend his physical and mental limits.[6] It is meant to involve the arduous achievement of self-mastery and Nietzschean self-overcoming, with an emphasis on individual growth through practical acts of risk, prowess and endurance.[7] Rites of passage, often connected to promotion in grade level, include spending three months living rough in a forest bereft of human contact,[8][1] and the assumption of difficult occupations to develop personality and leadership ability.[7] This is meant to aid in the evolution of the individual: "this new individual will be fierce, free, exult in exploration and discovery and possess an essentially pagan attitude to life."[9] This, in turn, will lead to the transformation of society into a higher, refined civilization.

According to the ONA:

"Satanism is understood by its genuine adherents as a particular Occult way or method. That is, it is a specific path or way toward a specific goal, the following of which involves a particular way of living. The specific path, or 'Left Hand Path', is a dark, sinister one, and the specific goal is the creation of a new type of individual. On a more general level, Satanism is concerned with changing our evolution and the societies we live in - creating, in fact, a new human species and a civilization appropriate to the new type of human being." (Anton Long: Satanism: A Basic Introduction for Prospective Adherents, Thormynd Press, England, 1992)
The ONA's writings condone and encourage human sacrifice[10][11][12][13] as a means of eliminating the weak: Anton Long describes it as "a contribution to improving the human stock, removing the worthless, the weak, the diseased (in terms of character)".[14] This "culling" serves not just a Darwinian purpose, but is also connected to the promotion of a new Aeon: "The change that is necessary means that there must be a culling, or many cullings, which remove the worthless and those detrimental to further evolution."[15] Thus, true Satanism, they assert, requires venturing into the realm of the forbidden and illegal, in order to make contact with the "sphere of acausal, sinister forces on the cosmos."[7] The presencing of acausal energies, such as through culling, is meant to create a new Aeon, whose energies will then create a newer, higher civilization from the energy unleashed.[16]

Probably because of the ONA's highly radical stance, there is open animosity between the ONA and "mainstream" Satanists such as the Church of Satan.[10] The ONA publicly disavows any connection to Church of Satan, claiming the Satanic Bible to be a "watered-down philosophy".[17] The ONA eschews the religious type of approach evident in groups such as the Temple of Set and regards other Satanic groups, such as the Church of Satan, with contempt. [18]

The Temple of Set proscribed the ONA in the early 1980s for its avowal of human sacrifice. [19]


[edit] History
The Order of Nine Angles was originally formed in England in the 1960s, with the merger of three neopagan temples called Camlad, The Noctulians, and Temple of the Sun. Following the original leader's emigration to Australia, it has been alleged that David Myatt took over the order and began writing the now publicly-available teachings of the ONA.[7] The ONA now has associates, and groups, in the United States, Europe, Australia,[7] New Zealand,[1] Canada and Russia.

Author Nick Ryan has asserted that Anton Long, the author of the ONA's public tracts, is a pseudonym of David Myatt, a person who was involved with the neo-Nazi movement in England.[10] This assertion is repeated by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, who claims that David Myatt was the founder of the ONA and writer of most of the ONA documents,[20] and had previously acted as bodyguard for "British Nazi Colin Jordan".[21]

Ryan states in his book that Myatt lived in the 1990s on a smallholding in Shropshire with Christos Beest, who has given several interviews on behalf of the ONA[8] and performed a live recording of The Self-Immolation Rite that was included with Vol. 2 No. 3 of Fenrir.

David Myatt has always denied such allegations about involvement with Satanism[1], the ONA, and using the pseudonym Anton Long, and repeatedly challenged anyone to provide any evidence of such allegations [22]. In addition, Myatt challenged two journalists - Nick Lowles (from Searchlight) and Nick Ryan - to a duel for repeating such allegations, a challenge which they both declined. [23] [24]

Gerry Gable, from anti-fascist magazine Searchlight, said: "Myatt is an ethereal character who has used numerous aliases to post messages on extremist websites. He is a dangerous man who has twice been jailed for his violent right-wing activities and who openly asked for blood to be spilled in the quest for white Aryan domination. We believe... he remains a deeply intellectual subversive and is still one of the most hardline Nazi intellectuals in Britain today. Myatt believes in the disruption of existing societies as a prelude to the creation of a new more warrior-like Aryan society which he calls the Galactic Empire."[25]

David Myatt converted to Islam in 1998[26] [27] [28] and changed his name to Abdul-Aziz ibn Myatt.



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 2:39am
If ya don't know now ya know nigga... This shit was goin goin down long before MLO or Temple of the Black Light and it started in the greatest country in the history of great countries: ENGLAND



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 3:17am
Why David Myatt converted to the semetic Islam is beyond me. It would seem that the Indo Aryan Hinduism is far more effective in it's relation to Acausal forces (ie Maha Kali). What is very telling is the relation of Hinduism to European heathenry (especially Nordic Paganism) with it's idea of "Order" gods and "Chaos" gods. The same can be said of the Greek "Apollonian" and "Dionysiun" forces. All in all I would say the Gnostics had it most accurate in their acessment and creation of the God "Abraxas"... I am drunk and my head is spinning, inspired nonetheless... Tis the time to spread my line:

"THE HERETIC'S PANTHEON OF GODS IS THE ARCHETYPE FOR THE PARADOX OF GOD"...Paul Heathen Hamblet

For more info write to the CNV/Dungeoncult via Dungeoncult@aol.com



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 3:27am
So think about this, this entire world is set up to subvert the Acausal and to preserve the Causal via your shitbag jobs that take up all your time and MOST of all, ALL YOUR MIND.

You don't see bands like The Doors anymore and acid is highly illegal. Did you know that the DNA strand was concieved on LSD? Imagine what man could be come if he broke his Jewish chains?



toggletoggle post by Nightbringer Morningstar, Sodomizer of Christ at Apr 2,2009 3:34am
Paul%20CNV said[orig][quote]
So think about this, this entire world is set up to subvert the Acausal and to preserve the Causal via your shitbag jobs that take up all your time and MOST of all, ALL YOUR MIND.


Sure. An overemphasis on REACTIVE behaviors keeps people stimulus-driven, so they never develop the matrix of simulacra required to make sense of the world within their minds, and make it parallel reality.




toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 3:36am
I like the way you think... Email me



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 3:37am
Nightbringer%20Morningstar,%20Sodomizer%20of%20Christ said[orig][quote]
Paul%20CNV said[orig][quote]
So think about this, this entire world is set up to subvert the Acausal and to preserve the Causal via your shitbag jobs that take up all your time and MOST of all, ALL YOUR MIND.


Sure. An overemphasis on REACTIVE behaviors keeps people stimulus-driven, so they never develop the matrix of simulacra required to make sense of the world within their minds, and make it parallel reality.



Seriously, that was fucking brilliant!



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 4:03am
One thing that the forces of Xtianity, Judaism, Communism and Capitalism fail to understand is that every action has its equal and opposite reaction... The dead will rise from their graves, the gods will rub the dust of thousands of years from their eyes and lay waste to this world. Ragnorok is comin round the bend...



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 4:55am
Nightbringer%20Morningstar,%20Sodomizer%20of%20Christ said[orig][quote]
Paul%20CNV said[orig][quote]
So think about this, this entire world is set up to subvert the Acausal and to preserve the Causal via your shitbag jobs that take up all your time and MOST of all, ALL YOUR MIND.


Sure. An overemphasis on REACTIVE behaviors keeps people stimulus-driven, so they never develop the matrix of simulacra required to make sense of the world within their minds, and make it parallel reality.



At the same time I guess you shot yourself in the foot on that one becaue REAL nationalism requires the subjugation of these ideas in favor of a "herd" mentality...



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 4:57am
Man, I am really am genius



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 2,2009 5:04am
Remember if you are in a state of fear... Then they have you.

Raise your middle finger to the world and become the flame...Watain



toggletoggle post by sever at Apr 2,2009 8:28am
Ethnic Identity is unimportant and dangerous when paired in context with industrialized civilization. Your heritage does not determine how "right" you are to amass power and overtake other, less fortunate, civilizations. In fact, anyone who assumes this right to be innate is a threat to humanity as they pose a danger to the natural sustainability and natural biological filters that we were exposed to pre-civilization.

Oh wait, this is everyone. Nevermind, we're fucked.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 2,2009 9:48am
ITT: Paul CNV is am genius



toggletoggle post by DYA NLI at Apr 2,2009 10:05am
ITT: Paul accidentally gets a hold of a copy of The King in Yellow, summons Hastur, and much eldritch hilarity ensues.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Apr 2,2009 10:24am
England is the most multicultural shithole, london anyways, the rest of it, the celtic parts, are still for the most part clean and old timey.

but long live the individual, go back to farming!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 2,2009 1:29pm
i can't wait for none of this god crap to happen so i can laugh at everyone.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Apr 2,2009 1:41pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
England is a shithole


fixed



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 2,2009 1:45pm
and their food is terrible



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 2,2009 1:47pm
you don't like their muffins?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 2,2009 1:50pm edited Apr 2,2009 1:51pm
EAT A FAGGOT OR YOU ARE A FAGGOT



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 2,2009 1:54pm
SPOTTED DICK



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 2,2009 3:17pm
sweet! a ball of meat scraps and offal wrapped in a pigs stomach. just what i always wanted!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 2,2009 3:18pm
hahaha that article is awesome. this would be a great band name:

Mr Brain's Faggots



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 2,2009 3:19pm
"I've nothing against faggots, I just don't fancy them."



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 2,2009 4:06pm
Only the OAA's beliefs are real.



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