I know there is already a thread discussing this album to a brief extent, but I'm making a new thread because I fucking can. This album is fucking amazing. Anyone who thinks it's nu-metal needs to get new ears and start sucking dicks, starting with mine. And if by some chance I'm wrong, then I don't want to be right. Fuck you.
Mark i still say this album is horrible. Process of self development FTW
I will fight you to the death. Not personal, just business.
post by moenli at Dec 4,2008 11:39pm
this album is actually pretty fucking good from what i've heard...nothing like the last album...just heavy, techy almost mastadon-y melodic heavy.....stuff...i dunno
As far as my two cents on WDKY, I didn't like it.....the slow rock-ish parts don't suit them well and kills any momentum the typical Candiria parts on that album build. Everything from Surrealistic Madness to 300% Density is phenomenal though.
Surrealistic Madness, Beyond Reasonable Doubt, and The Process... make up the Holy Trinity of Candiria albums. 300% isn't too shabby either.
post by c.DeAD at Dec 5,2008 10:40am
I used to have the second album, I thought it was pretty cool when it came out. I have to re-listen to them. I saw them at the Espresso Bar and were awesome.
have you heard the NEW album. it fucking sucks so hard. its like they are TRYING to suck.
That's the one I need to get my hands on.
no you dont. seriously. i love old candiria and a little of "what doesnt kill you" but honestly... i would have rather super-glued a porcupine to my johnson than listen to that album.
Anyone ever see their video for Without Water? When they hit that slow part in the middle of the song, they focus in on the drummer. It's unbelievable to watch the drummer play that part. It looks like he's in a trance playing this ridiculous part.
EDIT: My bad, it's the video for Signs of Discontent. The part I'm talking about is at about the 2:11 spot:
post by Josh_Martin at Dec 5,2008 4:17pm edited Dec 5,2008 4:19pm
I have a couple of their early demos. The actual tapes not jsut dubbed copies. Are those worth anything on Ebay? (I can't go on Ebay at work)
I think one is called Subliminal and the other one is called Deep in the Mental, I think.
I used to see them all the time when they first formed. They opened NYC shows all the time. Especially at L'amour. The black guy singer used to call himself the Marijuana Messiah. Does he still do that? That was stupid and gay.
I honestly don't see how any of the album is nu-metal at all. The melodies are far more advanced than any shit nu-metal band could ever touch and there are still Candiria style grooves underneath it.
post by josh_hates_you at Dec 6,2008 6:05am edited Dec 6,2008 6:10am
+ one for surrealistic madness.
first saw this band at the espresso bar in 95 or 96. last time i saw them was at lupo's with life of agony 2006 maybe. yes they played temple of sickness \m/
there are about 3 good songs on what doesn't kill you..... that i would consider "candiria songs" the rest is definately swaying towards nu metal pop over produced crap. amazing for nu metal pop crap but i just don't want to hear it on a candiria album. yes i agree MFR it is complex and still has that candiria signature to the sound and style but it is still watered down and weak.
bottom line while what doesn't kill you has it's strong points overall it fails as far as candiria albums go.
*edit* Forgot to mention kenneth schalk has always been one of my favorite drummers. simply amazing.
post by MikeOvDecrepitvde at Dec 6,2008 9:21am
What doesn't kill you is watered down Candiria. Carley's vocals are not nearly as intense as they were on previous albums, especially when he was doing those septic-styled screams and DM vocals. There's no real experimentation or progressive elements, it's just straight forward metal/hxc music with some interesting timing. I hear nu metal influence on it as well, as other's have pointed out. It's not like they pulled a Korn or anything, but the influence is indeed there.
i saw them a few times in like 1997 or something, back when smoking was aloud in MA and the singer whipped out a fat blunt and started smoking it right on stage...
post by pickles 13 at Dec 20,2008 8:24pm
candiria is being forced to play crap on what doesnt kill you by the illuminati thats the only explanation i can conceive of every other album was inventive aggresive and interesting what doesnt kill you makes me want to buy skoal n kick my dog
candiria is being forced to play crap on what doesnt kill you by the illuminati thats the only explanation i can conceive of every other album was inventive aggresive and interesting what doesnt kill you makes me want to buy skoal n kick my dog
