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returntothepit >> discuss >> Woa any one need some cheap external hard drive? 50 bucks for 120 gigs usb2 by sxealex on Aug 25,2007 10:18pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 25,2007 10:23pm
not worth it when you can get 500GB for $100



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 26,2007 12:52am
Worth it when you realize how long it takes to back up, defrag, or find shit on a full 500 gig drive.

Externals are gay, though.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 29,2007 6:35pm
its def worth it cuz alot of people want hds but dont wanna spend 100



toggletoggle post by Dwellingsickness at Aug 29,2007 7:18pm
I need to get a new hd, internal or external is my only dilemma though, I dunno. My drive on this thing is only 200gig and it is filling up fast. Porn free though I might add.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 29,2007 8:30pm
um.. no, not worth it at all. for $100 you get a 500gb drive: $.20 per GB. a drive that is brand new and has a 3-5 year exchange warranty.
or $50 for a 120gb and you pay $.42 per GB for a 4 year old drive with at most a 90 day warranty.

hm.. I'm a retard so I can't tell which one to get. dur dur dur. my parents are brother and sister. dur dur dur.

also, what is the mean failure rate for a hard drive? 3-5 years. exactly. also, what is the mean failure rating of the 120gb drive? I'm guessing 1/2 the 500gb. what is the max resting gshock of the 120gb? 60G max. the 500gb would be 350G btw.

and arrowhead, external drives are use for back up, not running. so it doesn't matter how long it takes to defrag (cmd your defreg and schedule it anyhow) and it's a back up not running so it dosnt need to be defragged or atleast not aggressively since it's not a running drive. adding to that is that externals usually have HUGE files send to them so they are less likely to fragment the file system.

but hey, you retards can waste ya money if ya want.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 29,2007 8:34pm
oh, if the 120gb is 2.5" then I retract my statement and would buy one right now. I was assuming that both drives in question are 3.5". if so, you guys are retards if you buy the 120gb over the 500gb



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 29,2007 8:38pm



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 29,2007 9:33pm
the_reverend said:

and arrowhead, external drives are use for back up, not running. so it doesn't matter how long it takes to defrag (cmd your defreg and schedule it anyhow) and it's a back up not running so it dosnt need to be defragged or atleast not aggressively since it's not a running drive. adding to that is that externals usually have HUGE files send to them so they are less likely to fragment the file system.

but hey, you retards can waste ya money if ya want.


Interesting.

However, pretty flawed logic. If you were doing anything with video or audio work you'd quickly find that external drives are used not only for backup, but also for quick and easy transportation of large files or collections of files. In the audio recording world external drives are very common for per-project usage. Many studios will purchase a single external drive for a single project, which allows for the files to be easily moved from studio to studio and also simplifies the archive process.

When you only NEED 100-200 GIG for an audio project, why the hell would you spend TWICE the price just because it's a better value?

But hey, you retards can waste ya money if ya want.




toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Aug 29,2007 9:37pm



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 29,2007 9:45pm
arrowhead: I say "no duh" to you in my most condecending 80's tone that I possibly can give you. live recording to an external should be a last resort. record it to an internal drive (3/gbps max) and then "back it up" to the external (800mbps max firewire, 480mbps max usb).

it's also not just about the extra $50 for the drive. it's about buying a better product. 120gb drives are 4-5 yo technology. though, I hae a cost effective item for you. let me shit in a box and stick a $20 2gb flash card in it and you can use that. ok? granted the eces will probably ruin the flash memory pretty quickly, but at least you saved 1/2 the cost of the drive, right?



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 29,2007 11:47pm
the_reverend said:
record it to an internal drive (3/gbps max) and then "back it up" to the external (800mbps max firewire, 480mbps max usb).


Condescension doesn't work well for ya, rev. Unfortunately, if you took the time to read you'd notice I never said a word about recording to an external. You're still acting all smart for wanting to spend twice what you need for no reason.

Most studios back up to external, using a drive per project and allowing the bands the option of buying the drive itself so they can bring it elsewhere. Even a relatively large project won't be taking a full 500 gig. Why spend double on extra space you don't need?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 30,2007 12:33am
cause you get something both newer and 4x more reliable. 120gb are old technology. migrate upwards. if you are going to get 120gb drives, get laptop drives otherwise you are investing in something that is already passed the end of it's life cycle. I don't have a single 120gb that still works. even my 200gb died.. hell, only one of my 250gb works.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 30,2007 1:23am
the_reverend said:
cause you get something both newer and 4x more reliable.


And as you pointed out, ideally you're recording onto an internal storage drive. New and reliable goes in your box. Old and cheap is once the project is done. Especially since archiving or selling the drive to the band is a cost that ultimately gets passed onto them. Try explaining to a bunch of stoned 16 year olds why you're charging double for something they don't need. These drives don't need to last for decades, just a year or two.

I'm not arguing your opinion, here, I'm arguing legitimate practice that most studios use daily.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 30,2007 1:45am
ok, I see your point... after losing so many things on hard drive failures, my gf paying $800 for a 80GB data retrieval, all the convos at work, and learning the hardway that if you buy shit, you will just end up buying the good stuff later so buy the good stuff first and a save your $$, I'm a little jaded with cutting certain corners.

I figure that as an artist, your work is paramount and backing it up is too. I always tell people, back up to more than one location and more than one media.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 30,2007 2:03am
dood find me any harddrive with more than 80 gigs for 49.99. this one comes with a case, 120 gb, and usb 2. if ur on a tight budget and need an hd... its a good buy. especially for people who have laptops and are in college and dont know shit about compys.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 30,2007 2:26am
or they save up mommy's and daddy's month up another 3 days and get a 500GB for $100.



toggletoggle post by Dwellingsickness at Aug 30,2007 3:22am
the_reverend said:
um.. no, not worth it at all. for $100 you get a 500gb drive: $.20 per GB. a drive that is brand new and has a 3-5 year exchange warranty.
or $50 for a 120gb and you pay $.42 per GB for a 4 year old drive with at most a 90 day warranty.

hm.. I'm a retard so I can't tell which one to get. dur dur dur. my parents are brother and sister. dur dur dur.

also, what is the mean failure rate for a hard drive? 3-5 years. exactly. also, what is the mean failure rating of the 120gb drive? I'm guessing 1/2 the 500gb. what is the max resting gshock of the 120gb? 60G max. the 500gb would be 350G btw.

and arrowhead, external drives are use for back up, not running. so it doesn't matter how long it takes to defrag (cmd your defreg and schedule it anyhow) and it's a back up not running so it dosnt need to be defragged or atleast not aggressively since it's not a running drive. adding to that is that externals usually have HUGE files send to them so they are less likely to fragment the file system.

but hey, you retards can waste ya money if ya want.





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