post by VoidExpression at Aug 6,2007 10:58pm edited Aug 6,2007 11:03pm
Whoa, love for a christian band on RTTP? Stop the presses!
Ven was a extremely weak, but they really stepped it up with Spirit. I almost didn't pick it up because the EP was so bad, and that would have been a huge mistake.
They're on Fear Dark and lyrically they definitely lean towards christian belief, though this is mostly on the first EP. I had read somewhere recently that they were pushing for a more neutral religious approach, probably to keep from alienating people as they get more and more well known.
They're on Fear Dark and lyrically they definitely lean towards christian belief, though this is mostly on the first EP. I had read somewhere recently that they were pushing for a more neutral religious approach, probably to keep from alienating people as they get more and more well known.
They're on Fear Dark and lyrically they definitely lean towards christian belief, though this is mostly on the first EP. I had read somewhere recently that they were pushing for a more neutral religious approach, probably to keep from alienating people as they get more and more well known.
EVANESCENCE LOL
Bingo
post by aril at Oct 1,2009 3:12pm
Not apreeshed. It's a shame this band gets the recognition they do. stealing headlining spots for much better bands, releasing albums that all sound the same.
i like a few songs, but they are vastly overrated. can't say i've listened to them much since my initial exposure to them. i groan when i see them on tours instead of better bands, but at least with them headlining, you can leave early.
A bandmate who spent his childhood playing Irish/Scottish fiddle (doing contests and the whole nine yards) told me a lot of their "folk" parts are very clearly based on traditional Celtic tunes. Although I'm not super into "pagan/folk metal" I haven't heard any other bands do that particular angle as well as Eluveitie - Scandinavian folk music and generic Viking-isms seem way more common.
post by aril at Oct 1,2009 10:37pm
I love folk music. And this band, while having talent, just makes good folk melodies sound cheesy and over the top.
post by ark nli at Oct 1,2009 10:54pm
I agree with aril. Saw them live and they were entertaining but they also make me feel like I'm listening to the Dropkick Murphys.
Do you guys usually like Irish folk music though? Because I see what you're saying about cheesy, dropkicks, etc. but I kind of feel like that might have more to do with the Irish thing than the band itself, if that makes sense.
Not apreeshed. It's a shame this band gets the recognition they do. stealing headlining spots for much better bands, releasing albums that all sound the same.
DEATH TO FALSE PAGAN / FOLK METAL
You sir, are an idiot.
post by ArilliusBM at Oct 2,2009 12:31am edited Oct 2,2009 12:34am
I'm a very opinionated idiot, you're right.
Snowden, it honestly depends what kind of Irish folk music you're talking about. Some Irish folk music is very laid-back, relaxing and mellow. Here's an example from the Bothy Band:
The thing with Eluveitie is they're more of a "jig" band - the kind of music that wants you to drink beers and jump on a table dancing with hot irish broads. I'm more of a sucker for fiddle over acoustic guitar than jig shit, albeit jig stuff is very nice to drink to.
But Avalon Winds, I've hated Eluveitie since the Ven demo came out in 2003. I've seen them live now 3-4 times and I'm disappointed every time I see them and see people posing as real folk fans.
If you want to hear some good, solid instrumental folk music with MUCH MORE emotion than cheesy Eluveitie, check out the german band Neun Welten.
... and after watching that video I'm fucking jealous of that shit. would do anything to do something like that in front of a fire with ales this fall.
Aha, my old acoustic band played a few fall bonfires in our time. Your hands get all cold because you can't really get the upright bass close to the fire, and then the fiddler is so drunk he drops his fiddle mid-song and can't find it in the dark so he gives up and wanders off. Still, SUPER FUN.
Anyhow, I also like Irish/English/Scottish/etc. ballads but when I was in Ireland pretty much all you'd hear at sessions was (more or less upbeat) instrumental tunes. I guess what I'm saying is that playing that kind of folk music isn't "false" at all; you're just not into it which is fine.