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returntothepit >> discuss >> blue's got a new amp by brian_dc on May 25,2007 5:15pm
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toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 25,2007 5:15pm


*wets self*


wait, why am I posting this?



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at May 25,2007 5:16pm
damn that thing is nice and $$$$$$$$$$$$$



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 25,2007 5:18pm
BONNNAAARRRZZ



toggletoggle post by handinjury at May 25,2007 6:24pm
Nice!!!!!



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at May 25,2007 6:27pm
blue's gonna get taken out conveniently whilst carrying that head out of or into a show. just sayin...



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at May 25,2007 6:29pm
It's beautiful.



toggletoggle post by Revocation at May 25,2007 6:50pm
awesome I want one



toggletoggle post by i_am_jealous at May 25,2007 6:59pm
God damn.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at May 25,2007 7:34pm
Is this another one to add to your great collection?
Or are you going to be selling some of your other great amps?



toggletoggle post by Kinslayer at May 25,2007 8:18pm
Dave, you have the Pitbull right?

Both are killer amps; nice buy Blue Man Group.



toggletoggle post by Revocation at May 25,2007 8:35pm
yeah the Pitbull sounds really good but its got a ton of knobs and EQ on it. I would like something a little more basic



toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at May 25,2007 8:38pm
very nice. congrats!



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 25,2007 9:25pm
xanonymousx said:
Is this another one to add to your great collection?
Or are you going to be selling some of your other great amps?


i sold my 5150 II for a shitload, which funded this. i still have my fender prosonic, which is almost if not just as awesome sounding as the vht. but the vht gets me more amp snob points.



toggletoggle post by tylerl  at May 25,2007 9:36pm
i bet no one else here has a lee jackson ampeg. amp snob points for days



toggletoggle post by Hooker in sweatpants at May 26,2007 12:00am
fantatsic.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 26,2007 1:14am
blue that fender prosonic was hella weird at that lowell show. Stop lying to yourself. the vht will rule.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 26,2007 1:17am
i realized after the show why, my tubescreamer's tone knob was cranked all the way making it waaaay to spiky. im still trying to figure out which head sounds better honestly. dane and tim both say they like the prosonic better.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 26,2007 1:18am
the only heads I am really stoked on lately are:

All tube Orange heads (though the solid states aint half bad)
Peavey VTMs
Peavey Ultra Gain series


Heads I am not stoked on lately:

Peavey 5150s
Mesa Boogies
Marshall solid states
Line 6 heads



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 26,2007 1:24am
Nick the Mesa Boogie mark series heads are great. Too bad everyone plays the rectos instead.


Only way I like rectos is in the mix with other, better amps.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 26,2007 1:53am
brian_dc said:
Nick the Mesa Boogie mark series heads are great. Too bad everyone plays the rectos instead.


Only way I like rectos is in the mix with other, better amps.


It's possible, but I have yet to hear or play a Mesa that didn't sound like way too crisp and fucked up sounding shit

Like the gain on those pushes totally wrong...

I'll keep an eye out and try a Mark series at some point, though, to be fair



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at May 26,2007 4:14am
Mark IV for the win.

I hate the entire recto line.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 26,2007 9:09am
yeah, the whole recto line has this weird unfocused vibe to it. That's why it's only good underneath a focused amp. It definitely helps a tight amp sound huge.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 26,2007 12:41pm
oranges are excellent, the rockerverbs are the best theyve got going right now. the new tiny terror thats out now too ive heard fantastic things about as well.

peavey vtms are the same thing as your butcher, nick just with a bunch of 'mod' switches. the ultras and 5150s arent that far apart from each other though, so i dont see where youre coming from on that.

rectos are a finicky beast. ive found that the older 2 channel rectos are the far superior sounding animal, where as the more recent 3 channel ones are the ones responsible for getting the rap of being buzzy and fizzy.

boogie series mark amps are by far their greatest creations though. mountains of thick syrupy tone.

i dont know who have ever like marshall solid states though, some of the worst sounds i have ever heard in my life have come out of those.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at May 26,2007 1:03pm
I've never liked a single marshall's tone, solid or tube.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 26,2007 1:09pm
jcm 800s rule, jcm 900 slxs rule and ive heard fantastic things about the new JVM.



toggletoggle post by Anthny at May 26,2007 3:35pm
Niccolai said:
I've never liked a single marshall's tone, solid or tube.


the sound of an 800 blasting really loud is the most rockinest tone ever



toggletoggle post by cav nli at May 26,2007 8:25pm
id do that amp. its hot.



toggletoggle post by metalguy at May 26,2007 11:29pm
5150 = awesome



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 27,2007 1:25am
The ultra gain and 5150 seem enough apart that the 5150 rubs me the wrong way...I've played through both, and the sound from the Ultra Gain 120 and the Ultra Gain (I forget what goes here) that I played in Ohio were both most triumphant. The 5150 -can- sound good, but the Ultra Gain series -does- sound good right out.



toggletoggle post by My_Dying_Bride at May 27,2007 10:21am
boss 7band eq->bbe sonic max->alesis quadraverb->5150

you can make it sound like a lot of different competing amps



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 27,2007 10:41am
I still don't get the whole bbe sonic maximizer fetish. I got one out of curiosity and I thought it cut down on all of the natural tone of the guitar/amp. Only took a couple of months to realize that it belonged in the PA loop and not my loop.

I don't regret buying it because it makes everything going through the PA sound crystal clear



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 27,2007 12:18pm
bbes work well for bass players and PAs IMO. everytime ive ever thrown them in a guitar rig it just makes things sound a little cloudier and scoopps my mids. anything that scoops mids is something i stay away from.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 27,2007 12:27pm
the guitar is a mid / treble instrument.

Element the mid and it sounds like crap

I have no idea why they made those "mid cut" buttons on amps for a while



toggletoggle post by joey umbrella at May 27,2007 1:45pm
sonic maximizers will not sound right unless you go through the effects loop. serious.



toggletoggle post by joey umbrella at May 27,2007 1:45pm
oh, and congrats blue. that amp is ill.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 27,2007 4:41pm
joey umbrella said:
sonic maximizers will not sound right unless you go through the effects loop. serious.


well, obviously. This is how I used it. Still scoops the fuck out of your mids. No thanks for anything that does that.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 27,2007 6:05pm
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
I have no idea why they made those "mid cut" buttons on amps for a while


you still see them on amps all the time. its because for some reason beyond me it became cool to scoop your mids to achieve that 'aggressive metal tone' when in fact its what morons do in their bedrooms. scooped mids sound great when youre wanking away a bedroom volumes but god help you when you crank that thing up.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 27,2007 8:58pm
blue said:
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
I have no idea why they made those "mid cut" buttons on amps for a while


you still see them on amps all the time. its because for some reason beyond me it became cool to scoop your mids to achieve that 'aggressive metal tone' when in fact its what morons do in their bedrooms. scooped mids sound great when youre wanking away a bedroom volumes but god help you when you crank that thing up.


Here's the other problem with scooping:

As I said before, you got this mid/treble instrument. Kill the mid, what do you get? You got it, pretty much treble.

So put a bass player in...he's doing all the work on the low end. Now your low end sound gets masked by his. So all the audience hears is fucking HISSY TREBLE and NO definition to whatever is being played.

I see this so often, and it's such a simple thing to fix.


Food for thought, Brian Viglione taught me how to properly EQ an amp when I was 16. Weird, huh?



toggletoggle post by badsneakers at May 27,2007 9:46pm
VHT's are sweet!

I did some recording or the weekend. I ran my bass split though an old Kustom bass amp into a bergantino 6/10 and into a 50 watt Orange into a Laney 2/12.

Both my Traynor YBA 200 and Ashdown ABM500 are in the shop..boo for broken gear.

I had a VTM120 and just sold it a couple of months ago nice sounding amp.

Guitarist for Presley has an older 2 channel Rectifier and the Easter Bloodhound guitarist has a JCM800..

I'm kind of thinking of biting the bullet and pick up an Orange AD200 they sound so fucking awesome...I have heard about reliability issues..



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