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returntothepit >> discuss >> hardware question (USB 2 content) by Niccolai on Jan 5,2007 2:10pm
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toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 5,2007 2:10pm
I've wanted an ipod for a while now, but it won't work on my computer.

apparently i need USB 2 inlets, but I only have USB1.

is there a piece of hardware I need to buy, or should I just smash this computer and buy a think tank?



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 5,2007 2:10pm
ya, youll need a new computer



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 5,2007 2:13pm
I just got a wicked sweet 19" monitor, saitek keyboard, optical mouse, and have a speaker system on order, but my pc is an absolute piece of trash. It's embarrasing.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 5,2007 2:13pm
I use mine with an old USB, it's just slower. I think you can get USB2 hubs pretty easily. I supposedly have 3 USB2 ports but none of them work, so I just use the old one and be patient.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 5,2007 2:16pm
It really REQUIRES USB 2.0?

You could buy an I/O card with USB 2.0 on it if you really wanted to.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 5,2007 2:18pm
It doesn't require it, it suggests it for best results.



toggletoggle post by jrb2971   at Jan 5,2007 2:25pm
usb 1 is slower than usb 2 - and yes you can always put a usb 2 card in a pc that only has usb 1 (but it's a pain with the drivers).
google search for usb 1 vs usb 2

I put a usb 2 card in pam/jon's pc that I donated to them, and I guess it didn't take well (I gave up on the drivers after playing with it for 20mins), it kept trying to use it's generic usb 1 driver.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 5,2007 2:26pm
it doesn't require it, but you will transfer at 11mbps instead of 480mbps.

reading pam's first post is funny. sounds like when my mom talks about computers.

you need a USB 2.0 card like MSD said. otherwise a hub would still be plugged into USB1.1 and would only run at 11mbps.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 5,2007 2:31pm
I don't want to haveto wait for 73 gigs to sync through a USB 1.

gross.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 5,2007 2:32pm edited Jan 5,2007 2:34pm
jrb2971 said:
usb 1 is slower than usb 2 - and yes you can always put a usb 2 card in a pc that only has usb 1 (but it's a pain with the drivers).
google search for usb 1 vs usb 2

I put a usb 2 card in pam/jon's pc that I donated to them, and I guess it didn't take well (I gave up on the drivers after playing with it for 20mins), it kept trying to use it's generic usb 1 driver.


Yeah I have no idea why they don't work, Jeremy. The computer sees the ports but nothing happens when I plug shit into them. Ever have any luck rescuing the F drive?



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 5,2007 2:34pm
the_reverend said:
it doesn't require it, but you will transfer at 11mbps instead of 480mbps.

reading pam's first post is funny. sounds like when my mom talks about computers.

you need a USB 2.0 card like MSD said. otherwise a hub would still be plugged into USB1.1 and would only run at 11mbps.


Sorry, while you were studying computer terminology as a teenager, I was busy not being a nerd.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 5,2007 2:35pm
winxp had mega issues with USB 2.0 originally. you are probably using an older version with driver issues.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Jan 5,2007 2:39pm
I've never had issues with the USB 2 card in my wifes computer (hers only had USB 1.1)

I just plugged it in, and it worked fine when I booted the computer back up.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 5,2007 2:45pm
I don't really mind using the USB1, I only add an album or two at a time so it's not a big deal. I sync everything overnight anyway.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jan 5,2007 3:25pm
Niccolai said:
I don't want to haveto wait for 73 gigs to sync through a USB 1.

gross.


then get fire wire.
faster than both usb1 &2 combined.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 5,2007 3:32pm
WRONG. current supported firewire on the iPod is 400mbps. USB 2.0 is 480mbps which is a bigger number than the firewire tx rates.



toggletoggle post by mofo at Jan 5,2007 3:37pm
every firewaire/mac geek says firewire is faster.. jeezuz
well, actually from what wikipedia says, just like Rev points out - 400mbps vs 480mbps (usb2). BUT firewire handles contention better, is (daisy) chainable and USB2 doesn't hit the 480mbps mark much often. Firewire 2 is supposed to be 800mbps. Still mac people are lame, fagwire is overrated I will punch that Mac nerd on the tv commercials once I find him!



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 5,2007 4:17pm
That's why I just stick to IEEE 1394



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 5,2007 4:19pm
there is a standard for 1600 out there, but everyone is trying to push 3G buses instead.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 5,2007 4:22pm
Will USB 2.0 make my internets go fasters?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 5,2007 4:23pm
it will make our G.P.U. go Y.E.S. oh and I upgraded your RAM.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 5,2007 4:33pm
haha, oh the memories. Fucking knowitalls...
http://www.forum.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=20059



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 5,2007 4:37pm
she's going to see that



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 5,2007 4:40pm
I think they're too busy buying white Nike's and hitting all the drug stores for phenabarbatol at this point.



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