that's just plain ridiculous

highway robbery is what it is

does anyone else find this as aggravating as i do?

Just how the hell would you even make enough back at the door to pay that fee let alone the bands on the bill? That's retarded, I could never afford to do a show there, I sweat when a band has a $300 guarantee...$2000 to rent that area for the night is retarded, $150 would be more reasonable

$500 would be reasonable...maybe even $750

the only way that would work is if you had a minimum of 10 bands and you did a pay-to-play

If you are friends with Scott Lee it's probably $200

or you book a show with some decent bands that will draw a few hundred kids

yeah i know that...i wanted to move that june 30 show there and i know we could get like 150 kids no problem...but we'd need more and to do so i'd need a headliner which is just more $$

what happened to the good ol' days when the palladium would put on local shows for the sake of local music

i used to go see crappy bands there all the time and it'd be packed

times change when moneys involved

correction: people change when money's involved

what's the capacity ike 500?

around there...maybe 600

now imagine how much the downstairs is.

RTTP fest anyone?

i would have booked an RTTP party there but aaron said no
$2000 is the cost and you can make your $ back and more...

Why does Aaron not want to have an RttP party?

das uber gay

that grafton show i put together in january was supposed to be a benefit for aaron's cause...he refused though

something about the fact that there are starving bands out there who need the money more than he, perhaps he doesn't want to see people shelling out 2 grand for something like this

i think that it should happen and the rev doesnt have a choice, he just has to enjoy it.

easy way have a metal prom there.... charge 50 a ticket and there you go

fuck that noise

he actually got mad at me...because i was trying to put it together as a surprise show/bday party for him and he didn't want me dishing out all that money

that is alot of money for a b-day gift but it shows who much of a good person you are
+100000000000000 scene points! free10000000 photo pit passes

succubus said:

probably because he knew making the money back would be impossible.

im sorry, but how exactly is this impossible to make your money back? the place holds what, 500? The Red Chord and The Acacia Strain played thier last summer and the place was sold out...get a decent headliner, a few good opening acts and at a head charge of 10 bucks at the door, 200 kids will recoup.

I understand that good headlining bands are hard to come by and harder to get, but thats why you plan the thing several months in advance. The Palladium is the metal/hardcore venue in MA, its name is instantly recognized internationally...why the fuck would it be cheap to get?

if you count 'The Red Chord and The Acacia Strain' as RTTP bands then maybe you'd have a chance at making your money back. What bands that post here regularly are gonna draw 500+ kids @ $10-15 per person?

Any band that's going to make you that much money at the door is going to want twice that for playing.


I'd pay that for both floors and run a sweet fest.

picking the right bands, say 10 locals and 1 headliner, all that combined can bring a lot of people together. i made up a mock set time and everything and could fit that from 5-12(which would be more than $2,000, not sure how much but it's probably another $500 to a grand) with 20 minute sets and 40 for a headliner with 15 minute changes.

i wrote down a list of bands that would be good for it, encompassing almost everything in the "heavy" genre:

zircon
dour cursiva
in dire need
hirudinea
goreality
porphyria
sacreligion
burn in silence
on paths of torment
dissector
*random headliner*

i was even thinking like ordering tons of pizza for all the bands and buying a keg or two off of the bar

it's totally feasible, the only problem is the $$$, if i were to do it it'd have to be pay-to-play because I don't have the money for it. Maybe if all the bands looked at it as working together to make the show happen it wouldn't be so bad.

I refuse to believe that upstairs holds 500. What spaces are you including in this estimate? The floor could probably hold 150, MAX.

you have never seen a packed show upstairs at the palladium then

Wait, I had a bad memory of it. I just found some pictures from a packed show there. Nevermind. I thought the floor was narrower.

yeah it's wider and longer than it seems for some reason

there's also the whole balcony as well where they usually have merch tables(another thing that'd be good, all the local labels can set up their merch tables, hell maybe even help sponsor it a bit)

capacity for the palladium is 2160
about 600 upstairs and 1600 downstairs.

aaron swoops in and drops bombs

sacreligion said:


Probably because when you walk in you're only 5 feet from the bar on other side. Plus, when the place doesn't have as much people you notice the limited space a lot more.

good point

The Red Chord 100 percent supports RTTP, no matter how big they have gotten. I guarantee if you wanted to do a fest in Aaron's name they would support it more than most other big time bands.

Paying to play isnt that bad if you consider the magnitude of a bill you could create. The amount of expsosure that can be garnered by each band, and the fact that its a community event, ie: no one is ripping each other off, all going for the same common goal, makes selling 25 tickets apiece not a horrible request.

That said, why go through this trouble? Just rent a hall or some shit.

because it'd be better there...and it's a nice thing to have everyone work together to achieve

that sucks

if theres an rttp fest there should be bareknucke boxing matches between metalcore vs. metal people. and we can throw money in and bet on the boxers as well. it'd be awesome

fun fact: one of the biggest illegal bareknuckle boxing leagues in the world was under main st. in worcester right next to the palladium

anonymous said:


That's the point. There are no halls in Worcester or the surrounding towns that will host a show because hardcore kids ruined it by fighting and shit.

metal near worcester is basicaly limited to the palladium and the QVCC right now. rox's in oxford too. and ralph's one thursday a month.

Ok Mathematically if you could get a sellout crowd at the Palldium for we will say merely 10$ a ticket now 10 x 600 roughly we'll say 6000 now Palldium need 2000$ so that 4000 the we got band gaurentees and blah blah blah probably leave ya with I dunno depending on how big the bands are we'll say they want like 500 a piece (guesstimate) two or 3 big bands to get a seeout draw so that another 1500 (roughly) bringing us to about 2500 I know I am missing numbers here someone help me out cause I know that a promoter could'nt walk away with 2500 (or whoever puts on the show)

this would all work if everyone worked together. with enough bands, there should be no problem getting the money for it, thats if all the bands have as many fans as they claim too.

Yeti said:

and if bands don't share the same fans.

CTborderpatrol said:

I fully endorse and support this idea.

Im in on the Metal End!

if all the bands did their share it would more than work...10 locals plus one headliner is enough to get at least 300 people into that show...if tickets were done for $10(maybe $15 depending on what the headliner wants) it'd pretty much cover the cost of the show...any profits made should go right back to the bands

headling band= backend after expenses