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returntothepit >> discuss >> Exodus, Full Blown Chaos, Scars of Tomorrow, Subzero at Mark's Showplace Monday Night by anonymous on Apr 26,2006 9:31pm
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toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 26,2006 9:31pm
New England Concerts
Presents
Exodus
Full Blown Chaos
Scars of Tomorrow
Subzero

Also Playing
Blackout Frenzy
Below the Rise
Croatlus
Recongnizer
Fractured Silence
Synthetic Mindset

Doors at 4pm ... Show is 18+... Cover is $20

If your 21+ you get into the stripclub all night for free.

If you cant see these bands play the Metal Fest at the Palladium check them out at a small night club....

tickets available at the door or thru strawberries or www.etix.com



toggletoggle post by EAB Booking at Apr 27,2006 8:57am
20 bucks???



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 27,2006 3:32pm
Also Mike HSU from Waaf 107.3 will be there hosting the night and giving away prizes.



toggletoggle post by EAB Booking at Apr 27,2006 4:53pm
20 bucks????



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at May 1,2006 9:57am
Yes, $20 at the door. You might be able to pick up tix from the bands in advance for $15. Not bad since getting them at Strawberries is something like $24.99

Show up early and stay late!!!!!



toggletoggle post by Crotalus - Steve at May 1,2006 10:30am
Are you going, Rev?

This show is gonna friggin' RULE. I can't wait.




toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at May 1,2006 10:32am
the only locals i've heard of on that bill are blackout frenzy and crotalus. why would no name bands like fractured silence, etc. get on this bill over more established new england bands with drawing power? sounds fishy.



toggletoggle post by mcmahon  at May 1,2006 10:58am
i'll probably go



toggletoggle post by Hammer at May 1,2006 11:19am
Yeah, there's like 39,865 local bands playing this thing. WTF is up with that?



toggletoggle post by Cecchini @ UML at May 1,2006 11:55am
dreadkill said:
the only locals i've heard of on that bill are blackout frenzy and crotalus. why would no name bands like fractured silence, etc. get on this bill over more established new england bands with drawing power? sounds fishy.


because bands agree to sell 500 bucks worth of tix to play marks.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at May 1,2006 12:59pm
Cecchini @ UML said:
dreadkill said:
the only locals i've heard of on that bill are blackout frenzy and crotalus. why would no name bands like fractured silence, etc. get on this bill over more established new england bands with drawing power? sounds fishy.


because bands agree to sell 500 bucks worth of tix to play marks.



Yup. More like $750 for this one. But hey, It's fuckin Exodus and Full Blown.



toggletoggle post by mcmahon  at May 2,2006 1:22am
This was the first marks show i have been to where all the bands had good mixes! unbelievable.

For those that didn't make it:
Scars of Tomorrow was decent. They pleaded for people to purchase merch for gas money home. I threw them a few singles after the show that I would have spent on beer. Subzero cancelled due to lack of funds. Full Blown Chaos had one of the first sucessful continious pits at marks. I was impressed. The bouncers got the shit kicked out of themselves by jumping into it. I think Exodus was expecting mayhem during their set but security kept everyone on a tight leash. Great show, though attendence was lacking a bit.

Thanks for the beers Below the Rise and Blackout Frenzy.



toggletoggle post by mOe  at May 2,2006 2:14am
i actually went to this...i kept yelling for Pirhana but Exodus didnt play it



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 2,2006 2:25am
I was thinking of that on the way home, no fucking Pirhana!!! WTF! Oh well, they did a good show considering the 37 people in the building.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at May 2,2006 1:13pm
Exodus Kicked fuckin ass!!!! I didn't know Paul Bostaph was drumming for them. He rules. Full Blown kicked ass as usual. Awesome show.



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 2,2006 1:54pm
Decent show last night.All the openers SUCKED balls except Crotalus.Full Blown Chaos were definitly the worst of the openers.Fuck that tough guy/jump da fuck up shitcore metal!!! Exodus could have played longer also.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at May 2,2006 3:15pm
mcmahon said:


Thanks for the beers Below the Rise and Blackout Frenzy.


Any time bro. What's a good metal show without beer?




toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at May 2,2006 3:19pm
Crotalus kicked ass (as usual) last night. I still like their cover of Painkiller by Priest better than The Trooper by Maiden.

It was funny to see the bouncers trying to stop the mosh during Full Blown Chaos. During the last song of Full Blown, everyone errupted into the pit and the bouncers couldn't do anything (and were stuck in the middle of it.) It was pretty funny.

Also caught Below the Rise with their newer lineup (haven't seen them since Sept.) They def sound better and had a great set.



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 2,2006 3:19pm
anonymous said:
New England Concerts
Presents
Exodus
Full Blown Chaos
Scars of Tomorrow
Subzero

Also Playing
Blackout Frenzy
Below the Rise
Croatlus
Recongnizer
Fractured Silence
Synthetic Mindset

Doors at 4pm ... Show is 18+... Cover is $20

If your 21+ you get into the stripclub all night for free.

If you cant see these bands play the Metal Fest at the Palladium check them out at a small night club....

tickets available at the door or thru strawberries or www.etix.com




Once again to many fucking opening bands.Im sick of this shit!!! Exodus got screwed over because of this.They could have played another 4-5 songs.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at May 2,2006 3:23pm
Club owners always do that for $$$$$. That's nothing new.

I think Exodus was more pissed because people weren't allowed to pit.



toggletoggle post by mOe @ work at May 2,2006 3:42pm
all i know is there was some band playing when i got there that was playing "For Whom The Bell Tolls" almost chord for chord, but just with different words...the rest of their set just sounded like they were playing old megadeth and metallica songs but with their own words to 'em



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 2,2006 3:44pm
That would be Crotalus



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 2,2006 3:45pm
metal_church101 said:
Club owners always do that for $$$$$. That's nothing new.

I think Exodus was more pissed because people weren't allowed to pit.


I think the club lost money last night



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 2,2006 3:55pm
I didn't think all the opening bands sucked at all.



toggletoggle post by mOe @ work at May 2,2006 3:58pm
Jugulator said:
That would be Crotalus



wow, thats sad



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 2,2006 4:04pm
I don't know if the club lost money, a lot of people came and went. WTF was with half the crowd leaving after Full Blown Chaos?? Definitely a lame metal scene around here, it's sad but metalcore is definitely more popular. Exodus didn't get screwed for time(there was a good 20 minutes left), they just didn't want to end up playing for a totally empty club.
And if Mark's isn't going to allow a little pit action, they shouldn't be booking these kinds of bands. period.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 2,2006 4:11pm
wait... so 6 bands paid $750 to play? that's 37.5 tickets from each band.
total $4500
which is probably about what a night of this package costs.
any at the door was $20 per head gravy.
plus the bar proceeds.

I'm sorry, but that's highway fucking robbery from this club. in order for all the bands not to loose money, that's 225 pre-sale tickets that would need to be sold. like the bands or not, that's is ripping off artists. I know artists need a fire lit under their asses to get them out there and promoting shows/their band, but $750 is a stiff fucing fire.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at May 2,2006 4:11pm
It's always like that in there. It's hard for any band to compete with the T & A going on next door. They leave the strip club part to come over, see there band, and then right back over to the strip club.



toggletoggle post by mOe @ work at May 2,2006 4:24pm
yea that's how i feeel...they're defnitly going to turn people off of going to shows there if they dont allow pitting...one of the guys i was hanging with was wearing a certain style hat thats i guess associated with hardcore attire, and so were the people he was there hangin out with. Security asked him and his friends to get the fuck out because they thought they were FSU. Thankfully the guys explained that they werent FSU and security left em alone. But they definitly do need to lighten up on the no moshing, or just not have heavy bands play. Because as stupid as it sounds, the pit is a part of extreme music.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 2,2006 4:34pm
they don't have the right license to allow dancing.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at May 2,2006 4:34pm
yeah we definitely only had to pay $375 to play that mushroomhead show and it's the same deal for suffocation...i don't know why this show would be so much more unless exodus has a ridiculous guarantee(actually now that i think about it a few of those bands probably wanted a lot of $$)

hell we didn't even sell all our tickets and the guy didn't mind



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 2,2006 4:36pm
metal_church101 said:
It's always like that in there. It's hard for any band to compete with the T & A going on next door. They leave the strip club part to come over, see there band, and then right back over to the strip club.



The strip club part is so LAME.Whats the point in tipping a stripper if their not gonna spread their legs for u.The hottest grl there last night was the cute waitress Amanda



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at May 2,2006 4:43pm
mOe @ work said:
yea that's how i feeel...they're defnitly going to turn people off of going to shows there if they dont allow pitting...one of the guys i was hanging with was wearing a certain style hat thats i guess associated with hardcore attire, and so were the people he was there hangin out with. Security asked him and his friends to get the fuck out because they thought they were FSU. Thankfully the guys explained that they werent FSU and security left em alone. But they definitly do need to lighten up on the no moshing, or just not have heavy bands play. Because as stupid as it sounds, the pit is a part of extreme music.


I agree. It totally kills everything.




toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at May 2,2006 6:06pm
Yeah, I don't think I wanna play there anymore. No moshing sucks and now we're fuckin broke.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at May 2,2006 6:06pm
it's only worth it if you absolutely know that you can get the people to go...which is hard to do considering where it's located



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at May 2,2006 6:10pm
Yeah, the place is fuckin hot as well!! We were in and out of our van smokin herb and there was always a fuckin cop strolling by in the apartment parking lot looking all shady. They have a little sting operation where they bag drunks coming out of Marks. Fuck pigs!!



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at May 2,2006 6:14pm
haha...i didn't even notice that last time we were there...but then again i spent most of my time getting drunk and looking at boobs



toggletoggle post by danny p nli at May 2,2006 6:25pm
i woulda loved to crack one of those security guys over the head had i been there.



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 2,2006 6:56pm
BlackoutRick said:
Yeah, I don't think I wanna play there anymore. No moshing sucks and now we're fuckin broke.



I dont care if theres no moshing there.You can smoke in there and they book old school bands.Plus when theres no moshing I dont have to worry about getting kicked or elbowed in the face by some mallcore poser.I cant fucking wait til SFU comes there!!!


NO WARNING SHOT!!!




toggletoggle post by Cecchini @ work and not nli... punks at May 2,2006 7:17pm
It was 500 for us when we opened for Sonata Arctica.... We managed to sell well past our minimum, but the running around and chasing down people to get money was dumb. So many people would just rather buy at the door.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at May 2,2006 9:17pm
ripoff



toggletoggle post by EAB Booking at May 2,2006 9:21pm
holy shit, some of you guys paid 500 bucks to play this show? Shit.. thats a ton.

How did Scars of Tomorrow do at this?



toggletoggle post by mOe nli at May 2,2006 11:07pm
SOT were one of the worst bands i've ever seen...they all seemed like nice dudes but musicly they kinda stank up the place
kinda jump-da-fuck up numetal parts coming from guys wearing hardcore/metal attire...i was kinda wierded out



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at May 2,2006 11:14pm
gay



toggletoggle post by Demon Burger at May 3,2006 3:33am
As an audience member at Mark's, I've never had a complaint when seeing a show there. I don't give a hot fuck about moshing, and personally, I'm pretty fuckin' happy they DON'T allow it. However, I can totally understand people's issue with it.


As for being in a band PLAYING at Mark's...

It'd be nice if the club started treating the opening bands with respect. I don't expect the club to bend over and kiss our feet, but for fuck's sake...cut us a fucking break. We just paid a hefty amount to play the damn show. We get nothing in return - so to speak. Making us remove our "in the band" wrist bands as soon as we get off stage so that we can no longer go outside and come back in is fucking RIDICULOUS!!! We have equipment that needs moving. We have merch that needs moving. We have legit reasons for needing access to the outside. Leave us the fuck alone.

Also, getting stopped at the door ON MY WAY OUT of the club at the end of the night because I had a bottle of water in my hands is ALSO ridiculous! Dude, it's 1:00 am. I just got finished playing/seeing a show. You are now forcing us out of the club, but "OH SHIT!!! He's got a bottle of water in his hands....and......OMG, he's ABOUT to walk out the door to the parking lot with it!!!! Stop him and correct the situation!!!!". Chill the fuck out, guy.

And while I'm on the subject...can we NOT book 9 million local bands for every show? How about we stop offering the national acts well above what they normally make just to get them there, then shake down local bands for $750 to make up for it, disguising it as an "opportunity" to get your band on a major show. This "opportunity" used to be based on TALENT.....NOT how much cash you're willing to pay.

THAT's the shit that sours the FUCK out of a night that should otherwise, be a badass time. I've played a ton of clubs over the years now opening for major national acts.....including the Palladium. NO other club treats local support as bad as Mark's Showplace. NONE. If they keep that shit up, they're gonna start driving the scene away from there, and eventually, will end up losing all the shows they used to be able to get.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 3,2006 9:53am
are you guys talking about jarrod's place?

SOT's guitarist looks gay. a black dude with black eyeliner on, tight pants, and a beyond boy band hair cut.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at May 3,2006 10:04am
Man that sounds fucking rediculous. I'm glad we didn't get on the Crytopsy & Cattle Decapitation show. We can't afford that much money if our lives depended on it. Hell the most we've ever been paid to play a show is $20.00; we'd all have to work full time jobs just to play the thing.



toggletoggle post by EAB_Booking  at May 3,2006 10:43am
jesus, sounds like this place sucks.



toggletoggle post by EAB_Booking  at May 3,2006 10:44am
mOe nli said:
SOT were one of the worst bands i've ever seen...they all seemed like nice dudes but musicly they kinda stank up the place
kinda jump-da-fuck up numetal parts coming from guys wearing hardcore/metal attire...i was kinda wierded out


Did people come out to see them though? Curious how they'll draw on our June 14th date




toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 3,2006 10:54am
SOT= A black emo kid on guitar.

Now I have seen it all.



toggletoggle post by mcmahon  at May 3,2006 10:59am
MAYBE 20 people were up front for them. They played a lot of new stuff, so many didn't know what was going on. They were approachable and easy to chat with after. I'd probably see them again.

I still have images from Full Blown Chaos playing Vorhees Complex floating around in my brain. I saw them twice before and really wasn't that into it. For some reason, they seemed more personable and into rippin' it up monday. My left ear is still shot thanks to Exodus.



toggletoggle post by EAB_Booking  at May 3,2006 11:11am
come check out SOT here:

June 14th @ Club Lido
1290 Northshore Road-Revere, MA
5pm

Scars of Tomorrow
Calico System
Inked In Blood(Facedown)
Drop Dead, Gorgeous
What Once Was



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at May 4,2006 1:49am
Sacreligion said:
actually now that i think about it a few of those bands probably wanted a lot of $$


FBC has a pretty steep guarantee from what I remember, they played at the Sheltah like 3 times



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at May 4,2006 1:55am
haha not to mention exodus' $4k



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at May 4,2006 1:57am
the_reverend said:
wait... so 6 bands paid $750 to play? that's 37.5 tickets from each band.
total $4500
which is probably about what a night of this package costs.
any at the door was $20 per head gravy.
plus the bar proceeds.

I'm sorry, but that's highway fucking robbery from this club. in order for all the bands not to loose money, that's 225 pre-sale tickets that would need to be sold. like the bands or not, that's is ripping off artists. I know artists need a fire lit under their asses to get them out there and promoting shows/their band, but $750 is a stiff fucing fire.




That is nothing compared to some of the nationals at the Sheltah, Most shows, The openers had to sell like 50 tix, granted no one ever did. Serge's theory on that was that, the more they were asked to sell, The more they would actually sell. I mean if you are asked to sell like 30 and only sell 10 that sucks, But if you are asked to sell 50 and end up selling that 30, that is great. So he usually took the number of tix each band had to sell and doubled it.



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