Anyone here like Benumb or are you all still being gay?

Looks like they are gonna play the Doom and Grind fest.

Benumb are a bunch of liberal pinko faggots.

ALL...ME

Rich totally hooked this shit up! I love Benumb.

awesome!

isnt the singer still in Iraq?

No, he is back safe and sound.

POWERDOOMVIOLENCE!

I added BENUMB to Metal Archives and they later were removed, I guess they aren't "Metal" enough or something.

holy shit that band is awesome and hypocritical

what more could you want?

sex?

http://text.returntothepit.com/forum.php?id=26677
u kno u wanna

pisscup said:

I agree

pisscup said:


you can tell Pete when they play the fest.

Benumb seals my attendance.

Wise man.

hey, I'm a liberal pinko faggot...and I like Benumb...I'm interested.

We all are, inside.

sweet!

anybody else read Pete's letter in the new Resound?

Joe/NotCommon said:

Indeed I did. Time to sign my band.

Joe/NotCommon said:

friggin AWESOME!

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

relapse hates me i think & i haven't seen a new resound in a while. what'd he say?

pete is one of the most sincere people I've ever known, hands down. we did a story on Benumb a while ago and I had to transcribe like 4 hours of recordings, hah...

Pete is my brutha from anutha mutha.

I haven't gotten a Resound in forever either. Is there an online version?

Pete Benumb from Iraq

By: Pete Benumb

Before I begin I want to thank James Grell and all at Relapse for letting me do this article. For those who don¹t know, for the last nine months I¹ve been stationed in Baghdad, Iraq with my National Guard unit. A quick history, I¹ve been with the National Guard for about 14 years and the regular Army for 4 yrs. I am here in Iraq of my own free will. I am in no way a victim of circumstance or a victim at all. I was not carried away in the middle of the night by the evil army of George W. Bush in front of my weeping mother. I chose to come here.

Let¹s just skip the reason I joined the military in the first place and get straight to the one issue. The sharp contrast between some of Benumb¹s lyrics and my actions (i.e. my military obligation and being involved in this politically charged conflict) boils down to straight hypocrisy, thus making me a hypocrite. Regardless of how vocal I¹ve been about my involvement, I have said one thing and done another. Once more making me a hypocrite. Now that that¹s been said I want to talk about something that actually matters, Iraq and her people.

Here are some facts, a few years back good old Sadam was given some money (food for oil) from the USA. Well that money built about 250 really nice palaces throughout Iraq. While Iraq¹s people lived in, and in some cases still do, the true definition of squalor, destitution, and poverty, I have seen housing complexes on the outskirts of Baghdad that make homeless encampments in the US look like upscale neighborhoods due to no electricity or running water. There is raw sewage in the street and mounds and mounds of garbage and waste. One thing you will never hear on CNN. Part of the Military operations here in Iraq is to report these problems to US and Multinational contractors who fix these issues. And they actually do fix these issues.

Sadly, these people have been oppressed on so many levels. By Sadam, by fear, by armed gunmen representing whomever, shooting down police and civilians in broad daylight. Kidnapping innocent civilians seen talking with US Forces, holding them for ransom, torturing them for information and then eventually killing them. I am sure that there¹s someone reading this and saying, ³This wouldn¹t happen if the US wasn¹t involved². Bullshit! It would occur on a larger scale. The world may never be free of violence and oppression, but I am proud to be with people that are making efforts to displace it in this region.
I strongly feel that Iraq could use a strong dose of western civilization. I do not mean abandoning her past, her religious beliefs, or her rich culture. I mean the people should be entitled to a sense of real security as well as a stable economy and financial institutions, (regardless of how much I hate most financial and credit institutions). Not to mention having running water, working toilets, sewage systems and sanitation programs, all the creature comforts we spoil ourselves with in the US. They too should be entitled to every aspect.

Since I¹ve been here, I have worked in both an office environment and also outside. I have worked with both day laborers and business owners and I have to say this experience has been rich, happy, sad, depressing, uplifting, angry and hilarious. It¹s been life. I¹ve seen a government take form (lets all pray it works for them). I was here when a President was elected. I am forever changed. No more can I look at a world issue without thinking of the human factor, the preservation of human life and dignity, the displacement of oppression and suffering. Sometimes these things have to take place by force. I am proud to serve and of those I serve with. To all those Bco 1/184 (attached and detached) thank you. To those who took the time to read this, supported Benumb in any way, or e-mailed me, a huge thank you.

I love how he completely avoids discussing how hypocritical he seems with anti-government song lyrics and pro government action

"Let¹s just skip the reason I joined the military in the first place and get straight to the one issue. The sharp contrast between some of Benumb¹s lyrics and my actions (i.e. my military obligation and being involved in this politically charged conflict) boils down to straight hypocrisy, thus making me a hypocrite. Regardless of how vocal I¹ve been about my involvement, I have said one thing and done another. Once more making me a hypocrite. Now that that¹s been said I want to talk about something that actually matters, Iraq and her people."

what more would you want him to say, sir?

Nick demands a thesis on ethics.

wade nli said:


admitting he's being hypocritical doesn't explain the situation at all, does it?

I'd like to know how he can say things about how corrupt coporations, governments, and militaries are and then just go ahead and support all of those when he's not on band-time. It's a conflict.

Maybe because this country is not the only corrupt government involved in the "war".

probably, but I'd like to hear what Pete has to say on it.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

we all support corrupt corporations, governments and militaries everytime we go to the supermarket or mall. this guy being in the military serves one purpose and his band's message serves another. people are still influenced by the lyrics so it's not like his military service makes his band totally invalid.

That's the general feeling I got from reading that. Especially the two paragraphs following his admission of hypocrisy.

pisscup said:

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

Get a life. Seriously.

pisscup said:


okay pisscup. good one.

Fuck politics, Benumb is awesome.

Benumb is boring crap.

its fucking grindcore, how seriously do you take grindcore lyrics? Give the guy a fucking break

Josh_Martin said:

make an Anal Cunt reference. You know you want to.

Yeti said:


Apparently you've never seen them live. At the NEMHF a few years back they blew me away.


I got a cool tape of some Candaian PV band from Pete.

What's the band's name?

Peruke.

the tape is awesome.

I must investigate further.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

I am a total posuer compared to you. I've only written songs about raping women, while you've actually done it.
I bow to you.

Everyone's giggling right now, and no one wants to admit it.

Who's the bigger hypocrite, a guy who writes anti-government songs but joins the army, or a guy who acts like an enlightened liberal but is actually a rapist?

Josh_Martin said:


Nah, I'm pretty sure you're a rapist.

oh by the way josh, let me help you out


"Well when I was in AC __________"

"This band borrowed from AC in this way __________ "

"You don't know shit about music because I was in _________, __________, and Anal Cunt and _______"


That's a useful cheat sheet, just cut and paste that next time so you save yourself finger strain.

RichHorror said:

This is the only thing that bothers me. They do fix these issues by supplying contracts to Hailburton, which in turns puts cash in the people running our country. So are they are really in it for the well being of the Iraqi people, or just the cash? The answer is obvious.

Anthony nli said:

AMEN

who says you can't hate something and "support" it at the same time?


+ corruption is better than nothing

everybody said:

benumb kills. the end.

yeah seriously. I hate when fucking peter eaters like Josh Martin come in and bring this down to a Kindergarten level.

This should be about Benumb, not about morons being stupid.

xmikex said:

seriously. hating benumb is pretty much like sucking a cock with your eyes closed and lots of saliva.

They will slaughter at the fest. And in Philly and NYC, if all goes according to plan.

sick! benumb is the shit

Word.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

stupid morons need the most attention.

Playing with BENUMB is gonna be awesome. I think that's a well written "essay" by Pete.

When I was in Anal Cunt Benumb opened for us in Oakland. Pete let us crash at his apt. Pete is the nicest guy on the planet and anyone who would question his ethics is a stupid fuck.

Josh you'd better watch out. You mentioned AC so the rapist from Taste of Silver is going to be all over you about it. Pete is cool as hell. My question is why hasn't anyone just beaten the shit out of the rapist already?

I think bands who play my shows are far bigger hypocrites then any points made about Benumb or any other band in this thread.

horror_tang said:

he's usually too busy hiding while his singer gets beat up

That's THERAPIST, Mr. Connery.

Who raped who? Im confused

Josh raped a few girls while he was in AC

I'm insanely jealous.

I think it's funny that Josh Martin is still caught up in high school bullshit but he's old enough to be a grandfather.

What a loser.

http://www.smnnews.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=175

nice

And long past due.

joe & Rich - thanks for making this happen! hopefully they'll get to play some other shows out east. Benumb's first ever Boston show!!!

wait, so taste of cigarettes rapes chicks?

that link no worky.
and if I got punched just once I would be DEAD!

the_reverend said:

why?

soloman nli said:

Yes.

chicks deserve to be raped and Benumb is fucking pissed.

ha ha.

Josh_Martin said:

nice.

soloman nli said:


incorrect. It's just something Josh Mart, Alex Onslaught, and butt buddies they have that clearly can't think for themselves say whenever they want to take the focus off of them or anything involving them

for instace (real life situations):

Me: I don't like watchmaker because of the gauntlets and stage antics from the singer
Alex Onslaught : At least he doesn't rape chicks!

Me: The singer of Benumb writes lyrics that are anti-government and against destorying other cultures. He admitted to being hypocritical in an article in Resound magazine, but avoided an explanation. I'd like to hear his explanation.
Josh Martin: He doesn't rape chicks!

Me: Ben Sisto has elitist, exploitative business practices, but is also a smart business man that has done a lot for underground indie music in boston.
Ben: You rape chicks, so your opinion doesn't count.


You remember Jr High, right?

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

Wait, is that where you are finding your victims these days?

so you don't rape chicks. thats good. ever give it a whirl?

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

So everyone agrees. You rape chicks.

It's not rape if you say I love you. It's only sexual assault.

That's the most important thing anyone can take from all of this.