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returntothepit >> discuss >> 7th New England Metal and Hardcore fest.. some details... by the_reverend on Jan 25,2005 5:32pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 25,2005 5:32pm
7th Annual New England Metal And Hardcore Festival
Friday April 22, Saturday April 23 and Sunday April 24
The Palladium – 261 Main St. - Worcester, MA

MassConcerts is proud to announce that the New England Metal & Hardcore
Festival will return once again to the Palladium in Worcester, Mass., on
Friday, April 22, Saturday, April 23 and Sunday, April 24. Single day
tickets are $35.00 per day. Three-day passes are $99. Tickets go on sale
Friday, January 28 at all Strawberries Record Stores, online at
tickets.com, or by calling tickets.com at (800) 477-6849.

Now in its seventh year, the New England Metal and Hardcore Festival has
been lauded as one of the best heavy music festivals in the United
States. "If you decide to go to only one fest this year, this should be
it,” Revolver magazine wrote. Last year’s festival sold out more than
two weeks before the show and was the subject of features on Fuse TV’s
“Uranium,” MTV2’s “Headbanger’s Ball,” and Sirius Satellite
Radio’s “Hard Attack.” The LIVE DVD of last year’s fest will be
released soon.

This year’s line-up looks to be the biggest yet with Hatebreed, Unearth
and Obituary confirmed as headliners for Friday night. Saturday’s
headliners will include Nightwish, Chimaira and Cryptopsy. Sunday’s
headliners will include King Diamond, Nile and Soilwork. Also appearing
are A Life Once Lost, All Shall Perish, All That Remains, As I Lay Dying,
Behemoth, Black Dahlia Murder, Blood Has Been Shed, Bury Your Dead, Dark
Tranquility, Darkest Hour, Evergreen Terrace, Full Blown Chaos, Glass
Casket, Hypocrisy, If Hope Dies, Internal Bleeding, Ion Disonanance, It
Dies Today, Kylesa, Maroon, Misery Signals, Nimic, Premonitions Of War,
Pro-Pain, Red Chord, Reflux, Remembering Never, Scurvy, Sonatarctica,
Stemm, Strapping Young Lad, The Acacia Strain, The Agony Scene, The
Esoteric, The Killing, The Minor Times, Throwdown, Trivium, Winter
Solstice and many more to be added. Talent is subject to change.

The show will once again take place on the two stages in the Palladium.
This year there will once again be a film crew recording every second
of action on the stage and behind the scenes for another LIVE DVD. Record
labels, vendors, and record distributors will set up shop in the balcony
of the upstairs room. Sponsors this year include Prosthetic Records who
is sponsoring the 2nd Stage upstairs, Revolver Magazine, Metal Maniacs
Magazine, Relapse Records, Mazur PR, The Syndicate and many others.
Informational and Related Links
Bands:

Hatebreed,

Unearth,

Obituary,

Nightwish,

Chimaira,

Cryptopsy,

King Diamond,

Nile,

Soilwork,

A Life Once Lost,

All Shall Perish,

All That Remains,

As I Lay Dying,

Behemoth,

Blood Has Been Shed,

Bury Your Dead,

Darkest Hour,

Evergreen Terrace,

Full Blown Chaos,

Glass Casket,

Hypocrisy,

If Hope Dies,

Internal Bleeding,

It Dies Today,

Kylesa,

Misery Signals,

Premonitions Of War,

Pro-pain,

Reflux,

Remembering Never,

Scurvy,

Stemm,

Strapping Young Lad,

The Acacia Strain,

Agony Scene, the,

The Esoteric,

The Killing,

The Minor Times,

Throwdown,

Trivium,

Winter Solstice



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 25,2005 5:33pm
This years line-up looks to be the biggest yet with Hatebreed, Unearth
and Obituary confirmed as headliners for Friday night. Saturdays
headliners will include Nightwish, Chimaira and Cryptopsy. Sundays
headliners will include King Diamond, Nile and Soilwork. Also appearing
are A Life Once Lost, All Shall Perish, All That Remains, As I Lay Dying,
Behemoth, Black Dahlia Murder, Blood Has Been Shed, Bury Your Dead, Dark
Tranquility, Darkest Hour, Evergreen Terrace, Full Blown Chaos, Glass
Casket, Hypocrisy, If Hope Dies, Internal Bleeding, Ion Disonanance, It
Dies Today, Kylesa, Maroon, Misery Signals, Nimic, Premonitions Of War,
Pro-Pain, Red Chord, Reflux, Remembering Never, Scurvy, Sonatarctica,
Stemm, Strapping Young Lad, The Acacia Strain, The Agony Scene, The
Esoteric, The Killing, The Minor Times, Throwdown, Trivium, Winter
Solstice and many more to be added. Talent is subject to change.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 25,2005 5:34pm
hah you beat me to it..
as official metalfest photographers we just got the email



toggletoggle post by pessimist  at Jan 25,2005 5:35pm
Obituary? Fuckin sweet. But why did they have to put them king diamond and cryptopsy on all different days? Them and their get rich quick schemes...



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 25,2005 5:36pm
i did a search and found this thread and rpelied in it...just noticed it is a new one



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jan 25,2005 5:37pm
i truely want to go for the whole thing... but a hundred bucks, man thats a lot of money



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Jan 25,2005 5:37pm
obituary
cryptopsy
blood has been shed
king diamond
ion dissonance
kylesa
premonitions of war

happy day.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Jan 25,2005 5:44pm
OBIIIIITUARRRRRYYYYY



toggletoggle post by Bradness at Jan 25,2005 6:16pm
king diamond sucks



toggletoggle post by Dissector   at Jan 25,2005 10:46pm
Shit I might have to get a headliner ticket just for Obituary. Fuck them and the ONE band I actually wanting to see be on a festival



toggletoggle post by DaveSTF   at Jan 25,2005 10:55pm
CRYPTOPSY!!!
I hope either kataklysm, Vader, Terror, Misery Index, undying or behemoth will be added too.



toggletoggle post by DaveSTF   at Jan 25,2005 10:56pm
oh shit! behemoth is in that list! Awesome.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jan 25,2005 11:01pm
DaveSTF said:
CRYPTOPSY!!!
I hope either kataklysm, Vader, Terror, Misery Index, undying or behemoth will be added too.


i hope misery index and undying are on that shit.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 25,2005 11:03pm
isn't Misery Index playing at the Bomb Shelter next month



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Jan 25,2005 11:03pm
Hmmm, I doubt it'll happen, but I really hope HYPOCRISY, BEHEMOTH and SYL are on Sunday along with the King...



toggletoggle post by wakeoftears  at Jan 25,2005 11:23pm
Fuckin ballsy. But I am poor as well, so it looks like im only going to the sunday show.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jan 25,2005 11:25pm
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
isn't Misery Index playing at the Bomb Shelter next month


dude, if this is happening ill be there with fucking bells on.



toggletoggle post by JayTUS   at Jan 25,2005 11:31pm
This is worth flying up from Florida for. Oh wait, I was doing that anyway.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 25,2005 11:32pm
blue said:
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
isn't Misery Index playing at the Bomb Shelter next month


dude, if this is happening ill be there with fucking bells on.


nevermind i'm an ass it's misery signal



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jan 25,2005 11:34pm
damn you.



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Jan 26,2005 12:12am
OBITUARY, CRYPTOPSY, INTERNAL BLEEDING see you there.

every other band, starting with Throwdown can eat my asshole.



toggletoggle post by mark rucking richards at Jan 26,2005 12:39am
FAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be in texas...of all the fucking weekends my parents have to plan a trip...and for ONLY the weekend. if obituary wasn't playing i wouldn't be as pissed, but what the fuck! grrrraaaah!!!!!! just as long as i don't miss maryland death fest, i won't kill myself.



toggletoggle post by mikehuntstinks at Jan 26,2005 1:28am
WHAT LABELS WILL BE THERE? YOU WHORES!



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jan 26,2005 2:35am
HEY... if any of you important people got a +1 ill give ya 50 bucks to invite me... oh pretty please



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 26,2005 5:39am
from smnnews
New England Metal And Hardcore Festival - Bands Announced
posted on 01-26-2005 @ 12:36 AM by - rooT

A good portion of bands have been confirmed for the New England Metal And Hardcore Festival.

Friday, April 22, 2005

HATEBREED
UNEARTH
OBITUARY
ALL THAT REMAINS
AS I LAY DYING
ION DISSONANCE
KYLESA
PREMONITIONS OF WAR
REMEMBERING NEVER
SCURVY
THE ACACIA STRAIN
THE MINOR TIMES
THROWDOWN
WINTER SOLSTICE

Saturday, April 23, 2005

NIGHTWISH
CHIMAIRA
CRYPTOPSY
A LIFE ONCE LOST
BLOOD HAS BEEN SHED
BURY YOUR DEAD
DARKEST HOUR
GLASS CASKET
IF HOPE DIES
IT DIES TODAY
MAROON
MISERY SIGNALS
RED CHORD
REFLUX
SONATA ARCTICA
STEMM
STRAPPING YOUNG LAD
THE AGONY SCENE
THE ESOTERIC
THE KILLING
TRIVIUM
CALIBAN
GOD FORBID
FULL BLOWN CHAOS

Sunday, April 24, 2005

KING DIAMOND
NILE
SOILWORK
ALL SHALL PERISH
BEHEMOTH
THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER
DARK TRANQUILITY
EVERGREEN TERRACE
FULL BLOWN CHAOS
HYPOCRISY
INTERNAL BLEEDING
NIMIC
PRO-PAIN



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 26,2005 5:40am
looks like little alex gets almost everything he hoped for



toggletoggle post by JayTUS   at Jan 26,2005 8:16am
mark rucking richards said:
FAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be in texas...of all the fucking weekends my parents have to plan a trip...and for ONLY the weekend. if obituary wasn't playing i wouldn't be as pissed, but what the fuck! grrrraaaah!!!!!! just as long as i don't miss maryland death fest, i won't kill myself.


Dude, I feel you... kind of. When I decided to move down to Florida, I was all pumped up that I'd get to see NINE Red Sox/Devil Rays games, but three of them happen to be the exact same three days of Metalfest, and that is the ONLY weekend series they play down there, so I will be lucky if I even get to see one. I know it's not quite the same, but at the same time, I feel the same!

But there's no way I miss this show...



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 26,2005 8:41am
I went ahead and did the math.

92% metalcore



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 26,2005 8:58am
When I heard King Diamond was playing a while ago, I decided I would go to see him. Now that I actually look at who he is playing with, I cannot do it. I like Nile enough to watch them, but every other band on Sunday is bad or unknown to me (and presumed to be bad).

What day is Raising Kubrick playing?



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 26,2005 9:02am
gatilksday



toggletoggle post by mOe at Jan 26,2005 10:43am
i wish i knew

99 DOLLARS!?
WHAT THE CHRIST..SOME OF US HAVE BANDS AND FAMILIES YOU KNOW!



toggletoggle post by TimMa at Jan 26,2005 10:50am
mOe said:

99 DOLLARS!?
WHAT THE CHRIST..SOME OF US HAVE BANDS AND FAMILIES YOU KNOW!


and let us not forget drug habits and video game addictions.



toggletoggle post by mOe at Jan 26,2005 12:05pm
Hellfest has twice that many bands for the same amount of days and only costs 75...now i have to choose which day i'm not going...i have to choose between obituary and internal bleeding because i'm definitly going Saturday...bastards...they'll rot!



toggletoggle post by tbone_r @work at Jan 26,2005 12:11pm
caliban, red chord, cryptopsy, it dies today, bury your dead, a life once lost, god forbid, blood has been shed, sonata arctica....

def going saturday. hopefully i dont dislocate my shoulder before caliban and it dies today



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 26,2005 12:12pm
Moe, stop being so metalcore.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jan 26,2005 12:18pm
hahaha. but seriously, how did scurvy get on there?



toggletoggle post by TimMA at Jan 26,2005 12:19pm
ooooooh, he called you metalcore. FIGHT



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Jan 26,2005 1:01pm
hopefully that list changes. I'd like to get Obituary, Scurvy, Internal Bleeding, FBC, and Cryptopsy on the same day so I don' have to choose.



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__NLI at Jan 26,2005 1:32pm
HOLY CRAP.....
all three days me thinks...are they going to add more bands? those can't possibly be all of the bands for three days and two stages?



toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Jan 26,2005 1:57pm
i want to see internal bleeding!



toggletoggle post by pessimist  at Jan 26,2005 2:02pm
how are hatebreed and unearth headlining over Obituary? gay.
at least if i go, i don't have to sit through it...



toggletoggle post by the tards boyfriend at Jan 26,2005 2:19pm
is it worth the cost for just these bands?

OBITUARY
ION DISSONANCE
KYLESA
CRYPTOPSY
KING DIAMOND !!!

who the hell is SCURVY?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 26,2005 2:19pm
scurvy = pirate hardcore



toggletoggle post by phantos   at Jan 26,2005 2:21pm
the_reverend said:
scurvy = pirate hardcore

ha. well of course it does.
gotta link?

(I finally adjusted my firefox settings.. therefore I am logged in.)




toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Jan 26,2005 2:31pm
Nimic = Mnemic? And is it Dark Tranquility, or Dark Tranquillity?



toggletoggle post by mOe at Jan 26,2005 3:21pm
Sorry, Joe...but now that i'm in Kubrick you have to deal with me being the most metalcore human being on your label..ha.haha..hahahahahahahaha!!!

now i have to find out which day FASSW is playing so i can go to that day



toggletoggle post by JayTUS   at Jan 26,2005 3:31pm
www.myspace.com/scurvy



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 26,2005 3:38pm



toggletoggle post by phantos   at Jan 26,2005 3:39pm
www.myspace.com/scurvy
www.myspace.com/scurvy
www.myspace.com/scurvy

meh.



toggletoggle post by intricateprocess   at Jan 26,2005 5:18pm
id like to see more grind death/grind

why the fuck does circle of dead children never play in NE?



toggletoggle post by phantos   at Jan 26,2005 5:24pm
intricateprocess said:
id like to see more grind death/grind

why the fuck does circle of dead children never play in NE?


they will on NotCommon's Doom and Grind Fest in early July:

The 2005 Boston Doom & Grind Fest - Boston, MA
July 15th, 16th & 17th
w/ Kill the Client, Conifer, Wet Nurse, Adolf Satan, CWAF, Phobia, Circle of Dead Children, Drogheda, Syzslak, Abhorred, Hirudinea, ID, GRIEF, Goatsblood, Unearthly Trance, Magrudergrind, Kevorkian's Angels & Ocean



toggletoggle post by intricateprocess   at Jan 26,2005 5:26pm
wow, what the fuck? holy shiticle, first the Rotten Sound show, than that show? fucking A, kudos to joe notcommon for setting up some brutal fucking shows



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Jan 26,2005 6:29pm
the_reverend said:
looks like little alex gets almost everything he hoped for


Almost!

Shit, I'd like to see OBITUARY I guess, but I won't be caught dead within 20 miles of the Palladium till Sunday.

I wish KING DIAMOND was just playing the Middle East or something.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 26,2005 6:35pm
CODC has never shown to a show that I've known of outside of their town.



toggletoggle post by goratory nli at Jan 26,2005 6:38pm
they went to Maryland but then again, who wouldn't show up to that.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 26,2005 6:40pm
the_reverend said:
CODC has never shown to a show that I've known of outside of their town.


i saw them at Hellfest back in 01



toggletoggle post by intricateprocess   at Jan 26,2005 6:51pm
the_reverend said:
CODC has never shown to a show that I've known of outside of their town.



yea like every show ive heard of them playing, they drop off



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 26,2005 6:59pm
hellfest is next door to them.
and goratory's words about MDF are correct.

my point still stands.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Jan 26,2005 7:06pm
looks like im going saturday... the only day power metal seems to be happening. but its also the day of bury your shit and other shitty worcestercore bands.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 26,2005 7:20pm
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
the_reverend said:
CODC has never shown to a show that I've known of outside of their town.


i saw them at Hellfest back in 01


saw them at hellfest 02.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jan 26,2005 7:23pm
^that was me.



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jan 26,2005 7:28pm
spalding, im gonna ninja kick you during cryptopsy, nightwish and sonata arctica



toggletoggle post by lynch mobb at Jan 26,2005 11:44pm
one word...... OBITUARY



toggletoggle post by androgynous at Jan 27,2005 6:20am
first day blowsssssss

chris they give you so few real metal.



toggletoggle post by Carcinogenic_Cookies  at Jan 27,2005 6:51am
These line-ups suck. Day 1 is shit, 2 the same, spare Cryptopsy and Red Chord. Day 3 seems to be the best route, King D being worth it alone. I want to see Nile and Soilwork even if that makes me gay. Internal Bleeding, or as I like to call "42 Breakdowns" are boring as shit, I saw them in Vegas and wanted to sleep. Theres nothing I hate more than loooong songs. I'm highly looking forward to the Melt Banana/An Albatross show on 4/18.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 27,2005 8:01am
anonymous said:
saw them at hellfest 02.


again, my point it upheld.




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 28,2005 9:43am
Day 3 is looking mighty fine for me...

Behemoth
Black Dahlia Murder
Cephalic Carnage
Dark Tranquility
Extol (FINALLY!!!!!!!!)
Hypocrisy
Internal Bleeding
King Diamond
Nile
Origin



toggletoggle post by Aegathis at Jan 28,2005 10:32am
Damn it tom i was just about to say Origin



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Jan 28,2005 5:30pm
God dammit. Bury Your Dead and Walls of Jericho are on the same day as Nightwish and Sonata Arctica. I fucking hate those bands, especially after last year. Those asswipes kept encouraging people to JUMP ON the people in the front row. Even after they saw me carrying my girlfriend out (She was knocked unconscious by one of those fuckrags that jumped on us.)

Blah blah blah you shouldn't have been in the front row for a hardcore show. We weren't fucking there to see hardcore. We wanted to see Iced Earth and Bodom and it would've been impossible to get up to the railing during them. And we didn't get to see them AT ALL because of that asswipe.



toggletoggle post by intricateprocess   at Jan 28,2005 5:57pm
origin is playing? nice



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 28,2005 6:04pm
i_am_not_me said:
God dammit. Bury Your Dead and Walls of Jericho are on the same day as Nightwish and Sonata Arctica. I fucking hate those bands, especially after last year. Those asswipes kept encouraging people to JUMP ON the people in the front row. Even after they saw me carrying my girlfriend out (She was knocked unconscious by one of those fuckrags that jumped on us.)

Blah blah blah you shouldn't have been in the front row for a hardcore show. We weren't fucking there to see hardcore. We wanted to see Iced Earth and Bodom and it would've been impossible to get up to the railing during them. And we didn't get to see them AT ALL because of that asswipe.


so stay out back for the hardcore bands and then work your way towards the front during the bands you want to see.

most people know well enough to stay away from the pit and to watch out during hardcore bands.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 28,2005 7:45pm
I heard from a friend who works at Strawberries that FSU beat up this kid soooooo bad while he was buying tickets for day 2 of metalfest.



toggletoggle post by WhyamIandasshole at home at Jan 28,2005 7:50pm
ALL THE WAY, FROM TAMPA FLORIDA. . . . OBITUARY!!!!!



toggletoggle post by mark rucking richards at Jan 28,2005 8:45pm
WOOOO! I'm in texas the weekend befooooore metalfest. phew. obituary, here i come



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 28,2005 11:03pm
Someone needs to give me a ride. I need a car but I'm a broke ass nigga.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 1,2005 1:57pm
All these punk bitch bands need to get off the stage and learn how to play their instruments. until then NIGHTWISH,SONATARCTICA, DESERVE THEIR OWN STAGE.



toggletoggle post by dirtybombed  at Feb 5,2005 12:19pm
Damn bro, what's the reason for the shattak? Just so you and anyone else who cares knows, we don't just not play shows 'cause we think that would be cool or something. We've never just not shown up or canceled for no reason. Give me a break. The first few years of the band had our drummer living 5 hours away from the rest of us, making shows very hard. The entire time we've played I've had a "real" job or whatever and haven't been able to take off for long enough to do a real extensive tour... believe me, nobody feels shittier about it than I do, but I own a house and have shit to take care of at home. We play out as far as we can without losing too much. In the 6 years as a band, I've personally lost over $3000 of my cash. I'm not rich, been without a place to call home and I do what I have to to survive. We've had two vans blow up en route to shows as well, stopping us from making to one (while we still managed to get to Detroit for the other just in time to play) and then causing us to cancel others. We've had to cancel a show due to one of us finding our father dead the day before. We've also gone through 3 drummers, 3 bassists, and 3 guitarists over the years... every time a drummer was out, we were on a hiatus for a while, thus having to cancel shows. As for Hellfest being in our back door or whatever was said, that also is not exactly true. It's about 7-7.5 hrs. from here to there. We've had to turn down 3 Euro tours due to us not having the financial means to pull it off. We're not rich kids. We don't live off mom and pop. Most of us don't even have computers or internet (like my 30 year old ass). We play ugly grind on half stolen equipment. We don't give a shit about being cool or trendy or popular or rockstarish from this junk. From day one it's been about fun and noise and I can promise you that we've done our best not to fuck shit over. If we would be asked to play this fest or whatever people are saying, we would, but we never were. Do we want to play NE areas ? Of course! I'm dying to play new england and have never gotten over being pissed that we had to sit dormant for the RI and Mass shows that we had on our first tour with Phobia (another case of us being over a $1000 in the whole at that point in the tour due to Necropolis Records falling out on their agreement to pay our van... missed two awesome shows in awesome cities that we really want to play). Bottom line is I don't know what Goratory said at MDF or whatever (hope not talking smack because I really like those guys) but I don't appreciate bullshit that isn't really accurate or at least void of the whole story. We've done the best we could with the shitty conditions and I would hope that any reasonable person could understand that.

Keep up the awesome work at Return to the Pit and thanks to all the cats who have supported CODC over the years... we appreicate it more than you can imagine and it truly is what has kept things going at some of the most difficult times.

Less War.
More Fuckin'.
-joe-

the_reverend said:
hellfest is next door to them.
and goratory's words about MDF are correct.

my point still stands.





toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 5,2005 1:02pm
damn, I got put in my place.. and so politely too.
and I understand that life shit gets in your way.

I will be at the boston doom & grind fest. even in you have to borrow equipment from everyone and drive in a yugo, please play.



toggletoggle post by goratory nli at Feb 5,2005 1:27pm
dirtybombed said:
Damn bro, what's the reason for the shattak? Just so you and anyone else who cares knows, we don't just not play shows 'cause we think that would be cool or something. We've never just not shown up or canceled for no reason. Give me a break. The first few years of the band had our drummer living 5 hours away from the rest of us, making shows very hard. The entire time we've played I've had a "real" job or whatever and haven't been able to take off for long enough to do a real extensive tour... believe me, nobody feels shittier about it than I do, but I own a house and have shit to take care of at home. We play out as far as we can without losing too much. In the 6 years as a band, I've personally lost over $3000 of my cash. I'm not rich, been without a place to call home and I do what I have to to survive. We've had two vans blow up en route to shows as well, stopping us from making to one (while we still managed to get to Detroit for the other just in time to play) and then causing us to cancel others. We've had to cancel a show due to one of us finding our father dead the day before. We've also gone through 3 drummers, 3 bassists, and 3 guitarists over the years... every time a drummer was out, we were on a hiatus for a while, thus having to cancel shows. As for Hellfest being in our back door or whatever was said, that also is not exactly true. It's about 7-7.5 hrs. from here to there. We've had to turn down 3 Euro tours due to us not having the financial means to pull it off. We're not rich kids. We don't live off mom and pop. Most of us don't even have computers or internet (like my 30 year old ass). We play ugly grind on half stolen equipment. We don't give a shit about being cool or trendy or popular or rockstarish from this junk. From day one it's been about fun and noise and I can promise you that we've done our best not to fuck shit over. If we would be asked to play this fest or whatever people are saying, we would, but we never were. Do we want to play NE areas ? Of course! I'm dying to play new england and have never gotten over being pissed that we had to sit dormant for the RI and Mass shows that we had on our first tour with Phobia (another case of us being over a $1000 in the whole at that point in the tour due to Necropolis Records falling out on their agreement to pay our van... missed two awesome shows in awesome cities that we really want to play). Bottom line is I don't know what Goratory said at MDF or whatever (hope not talking smack because I really like those guys) but I don't appreciate bullshit that isn't really accurate or at least void of the whole story. We've done the best we could with the shitty conditions and I would hope that any reasonable person could understand that.

Keep up the awesome work at Return to the Pit and thanks to all the cats who have supported CODC over the years... we appreicate it more than you can imagine and it truly is what has kept things going at some of the most difficult times.

Less War.
More Fuckin'.
-joe-

the_reverend said:
hellfest is next door to them.
and goratory's words about MDF are correct.

my point still stands.





I am by NO WAY talking smack guys dude. I was saying how you guys played Maryland when it was said you never play out of state. By the way, HUman Harvest has the sickest vocals EVER. Keep tearin it up guys.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 6,2005 1:28am
RustedAngel said:

so stay out back for the hardcore bands and then work your way towards the front during the bands you want to see.

most people know well enough to stay away from the pit and to watch out during hardcore bands.


Yeah. Like you can get to the railing without being there all day. Furthest I've ever managed to "work my way" to is 3 people behind. Perhaps I flew too close to the sun that day, but still.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Feb 6,2005 8:28am
I wonder if I can get any of the bands I like on this fest to play in Boston, I just hired Hank Philipi Ryan to investigate for me.




toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 7,2005 2:52pm
Haha... not trying to put you or anyone in any place, bro, just gets frustrating as hell reading stuff like that when you know you the best you can are constantly upset by the situations yourself.... you know how it is... we've all had it in our own ways.

I promise we'll be there as long as nobody quits or breaks anything vital or whatever. Haha! So amped to play with and see Grief!


BTW... thanks to all the guys/gals on Return to the Pit who have supported and backed CODC over the years. We appreicate it so much.

joe

the_reverend said:
damn, I got put in my place.. and so politely too.
and I understand that life shit gets in your way.

I will be at the boston doom & grind fest. even in you have to borrow equipment from everyone and drive in a yugo, please play.





toggletoggle post by dirtybombed  at Feb 7,2005 3:01pm
oh it's cool goratory.... i misread anyway... i was thinking it meant the band said something, not you (didn't see somebody had the name goratory on here). i agree, no point in missing the MDDF! we were really fortunate to play the first 2 years along with Brodequin and Malignancy. wish all 3 of us were on it this year too! we will be playing the return of the Ohio Deathfest (which actually was the precursor to MDDF) this year and are excited to play!

p.s. Thanks for the awesome comments about the vocals!

joe



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 8,2005 7:27pm
...3 SECOND guitarists, with me still being the original, of course.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 13,2005 9:37am
So back to Metalfest...anyone heard anything about Nightwish's replacement?



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Feb 13,2005 9:37am
They should replace Nightwish with Adolf Satan



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Feb 13,2005 10:56am
i'm just praying that sonata arctica is still coming....its hopeless though, they wont make the trip on their own



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Feb 13,2005 10:57am
i would almost bet they get killswitch engage or shadows fall to fill in. some 'big' band that has been at the fest a million times who they could get on short-ish notice. i know that doesn't exactly sound like an appealing replacement to nightwish for most of you...



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 13,2005 3:18pm
Certainly doesn't. I've seen both of those bands WAY too fucking much. Wouldn't be nearly enough to get me to buy a Saturday ticket (Only bands that I like on Saturday right now are Cryptopsy and SYL. And I could easily see Cryptopsy on Friday for a bit longer and lots less money.)

Still going Sunday, though. KING FUCKING DIAMOND



toggletoggle post by insipidzombie  at Feb 16,2005 9:12am
Shadows Fall will be on the Slipknot tour and Killswitch better not play. I do like them, but I have seen them way too many times.

Sonata Artica is still playing several U.S dates, including Metalfest. Just Nightwish canceled.



toggletoggle post by WhyamIandasshole   at Feb 16,2005 10:51am
If they'd move Obituary to Sunday I'd go.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 16,2005 2:16pm
Hmmm. A "HUGE" band is supposedly being brought in. Does Killswitch Engage really justify having huge in caps like that? That kind of thing would make me think like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motrhead, or Slayer.



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Feb 16,2005 6:55pm
insipidzombie said:
Shadows Fall will be on the Slipknot tour and Killswitch better not play. I do like them, but I have seen them way too many times.

Sonata Artica is still playing several U.S dates, including Metalfest. Just Nightwish canceled.


gizmachi just got added. werent they supposed to be on that tour? who freaking knows...

i just hope this "huge" band is sodom. THEN how many of you might make an appearence saturday night...?



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 16,2005 7:48pm
Sodom hardly qualifies as that huge. I'd sure as hell go, though.



toggletoggle post by insipidzombie  at Feb 17,2005 1:09pm
i wouldnt expect slayer or a band of that caliber to play. Slayer could basically sell out the Palladium themselves, so them at the fest wouldnt make much financial sense. I'd expect a lower band like In Flames



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 17,2005 1:17pm
__THeMoor__ said:
insipidzombie said:
Shadows Fall will be on the Slipknot tour and Killswitch better not play. I do like them, but I have seen them way too many times.

Sonata Artica is still playing several U.S dates, including Metalfest. Just Nightwish canceled.


gizmachi just got added. werent they supposed to be on that tour? who freaking knows...

i just hope this "huge" band is sodom. THEN how many of you might make an appearence saturday night...?


Not Joe Christianni that's for sure.



toggletoggle post by insipidzombie  at Feb 27,2005 11:24pm
so any more ideas of who this "HUGE" band will be? or when it will be announced?



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Mar 1,2005 6:57pm
Yeah, good question.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Mar 1,2005 6:59pm
insipidzombie said:
i wouldnt expect slayer or a band of that caliber to play. Slayer could basically sell out the Palladium themselves, so them at the fest wouldnt make much financial sense. I'd expect a lower band like In Flames


But In Flames wouldn't justify capitalizing HUGE like that.



toggletoggle post by insipidzombie  at Mar 1,2005 7:28pm
Yea In Flames may be huge, but I'm not exactly sure what HUGE entails. But I don't think that a band like Slayer could be booked. I dunno ... what would an in between band be?



toggletoggle post by Todd_Bombshelter  at Mar 1,2005 7:38pm
I might just have to skip Cryptopsy at the Bombshelter,I really need to see OBITUARY,It's been to long.....



toggletoggle post by kessaris   at Mar 2,2005 2:53am
2 things...it's spelled SONATA ARCTICA!!! not Sonatarctica...


and the other thing...isn't Between the Buried and Me supposed to be on Sunday? Or are they off or what?



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Mar 2,2005 6:42am
kessaris said:
2 things...it's spelled SONATA ARCTICA!!! not Sonatarctica...


and the other thing...isn't Between the Buried and Me supposed to be on Sunday? Or are they off or what?


#1 - They fixed that on the site. Mnemic was also misspelled "Nimic".
#2 - And yes, Between the Buried and Me are on Sunday. They hadn't been added at the time the original post was made, though.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Mar 16,2005 4:20pm
Any word on the HUGE band yet? And wasn't 3 Inches of Blood playing Saturday before? They got moved to Sunday.



toggletoggle post by lynne too lazy to log in at Mar 16,2005 4:45pm
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