blue said

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i will gladly chime in on this thread now.

eric, you know exactly who i am so feel free to take some shots. i have been doing this shit for a while now, though not nearly as long as you (10+ years). i have never played a single show where i was required to pony up money for tickets, and i dont have problems pulling people in.

i promote the shit out of my shows i play/book, and told anyone that tried to make me come up with money to FUCK OFF (case in point: eyehategod last may @ rockos). in turn the shitty promoter (new england concerts) did what sketchy promoters do: cancel the show because no one will do the dirty work and come up with the tour money for them.
That is exactly my point.... well sayd Blue so i sayd it and i will say it again if you want to learn how to promote national acts and have local bands open without having to sell tickets for you! talk to Blue cuz the man knows what he is talking about you brag about how much shit you have done and the end result is NOTHING... more work and less talk please
when i book a tour, i dont make locals sell tickets or pay. i promote the show myself by flyering heavily and lots of online promotion. when new england concerts books a tour, they do no promotion whatsoever and make the bands pay for the tour. the recent nile show at rockos was a great example of this 'do no work' policy. you are just perpetuating the same style, maybe with a slight bit more promotion. but not by much.

with this 'fuck pay to play' attitude, i have managed to play the palladium more times than CSDO and not have to pay for any unsold tickets. played club hell more times than i can count and never sold a single ticket. never had a problem attendance either. also played to way more than 80 people.

dont tell people its not raining when you're pissing on them, and dont try to convince people its not pay to play when it clearly is.

also dont brag about all the tours youve turned down. be a man and fucking tour LIKE A REAL METALHEAD. put out a full length while youre at it.

and dont tell people that theyre never going to make it with their 'shitty' attitude because youre not going to make it with your 'pay to play, shit talk everyone and never leave new england ever' attitude either.

you whine about how all these bands not being around in 3-4 years...but the fact of the matter is those bands will have accomplished just as much if not more than you have in the 20+ years youve been trying to keep CSDO together.

/end rant