these are all valid points... Bush Sr. just couldn't do it.... Clinton was a pussy and I guess Bush Jr is trying to end his fathers battle and in a way he did... I also feel the same way you do about not pulling our troops out, its just unforunate that the poeple who live there cant figure it out on there own, it also sucks that our troops although they did sign up for the military are forced to be ther longer than what was told to them, but again there in the military and war is unpredictable..... I think its a shame that the Iraq's lived in such oppression and shambles that they now dont know what to do with themselves as a nation and they take it out on our solders.... But again this is war......