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[QUOTE="ryan_nli:906366"]i have not read this whole thread, so excuse me if this has been said and defended already... but if this "bear" band is so important, then the promoters should have enough confidence that this band will draw, and not make kids pay their gurantee. and there are plenty of "promoters" who dont "pay to play" putting on your own shows is not a thing of the past. but i wish sub par bands that convince themselves that doing a promoters work for them would become a thing of the past. I can't understand why all these bands today feel the need to do this. so little bands have any real work ethic anymore. they expect everything to be handed to them, or that they have to pay for good things to happen. maybe more bands should spend more time writing credible music that people give a shit about, than trying to hawk tickets to a show that no one gives a fuck about. then if you write good music, good things will happen naturally. end rant. sorry.[/QUOTE]
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