I didn't say there was nothing redeeming. My point was that that "something redeeming" isn't exactly a high standard for bands, but it's the one that's used when talking about nu-metal.

So Angels Deserve to Die has a nice melody with an actual vocal harmony, do we give them an award for writing a competent part? Is nu-metal so atonal and devoid of basic composition skills that anything redeeming in the genre seems brilliant in comparison? System's whole image has been being the quirky and weird of post Korn nu-metal, Mudvayne without makeup but with the insanity, playing music of pointless chaos with glimpses of good prog or melodic ideas quickly washed away by crap, their goofy anger, and his annoying fucking voice that wavers like he's having a constant seizure.

Lacuna Coil, on the other hand, has put out some great music, and is actually real metal (as opposed to "nu"). What they have to do with a much less talented band from a different genre, I have no idea.